"Fury-Wallin fight was a dismal failure"

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  1. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    https://bigfightweekend.com/news/fury-wallin-fight-was-dismal-box-office-failure/

    Hilarious Facts at a glance:

    Arena capacity: 18,000
    Tickets sold: 3,577
    Level of capacity reached:19.8%
    Revenue: $1,000,000

    Okay so reportedly they pay Fury ten's of millions per fight, so where is the money coming from? This is a huge financial loss, are they just giving him free money or are they banking on a mega rematch with Wilder to make up the loss? Or are they just plain stupid?

    America is the bigger market yeah? That's what I'm hearing, Las Vegas, T-Mobile arena, and the fight performs worse than Whyte vs Rivas, where Rivas was an unknown quantity and it still earned WAAAYY more.

    So what's the problem here... bad opponent? Bad promotions? Poor market? Fury ain't as popular as we thought?

    Inb4 #TeamFuryCrew #FuryGOATCrew #FuryATGCrew
     
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    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They are willing to lose money for a possible 2,000,000 ppv fury wilder rematch, but ortiz might spoil that like ruiz did with wilder and wallin almost did.
     
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    3600 tickets sold? Niiiccceee. Better than I'd thought :D
     
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    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Do you genuinely believe it can reach 2,000,000 PPV? Do you honestly think, that even if everything goes well, they would ever reach that figure? Realistically speaking, not potentiallly yadda yadda
     
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    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    The tens of millions for Fury is just a big pile of bullshirts.

    His official purse was reported as $1M, and Wallin's as $250k. The purses of the entire card fell just short of $2M in total.
    Still, usually a fighter can earn loads more if there's enough tickets and PPV's sold + new subscrriptions at a streaming service, but it's pretty damn clear that they were lucky if they actually broke even or only suffered a minor financial loss.
     
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    Fury called Ruiz Jr, the first Mexican heavyweight champion of the world who is loved by Mexico, an average bum and disrespected Mexican boxing days before his fight on Mexican independence week. Then he claims to represent Mexico. Can't say I feel sad for his fight being a dismal failure.
     
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    You answered your own question. They'll take gambles/losses to build his profile for the Wilder fight.
    If Wilder loses than they'll lose quite a bit of money in the short term, I suppose and try to make Fury a star in the US over a longer period. Same if the Fury Wilder fight doesn't make the money they hope for.

    Show business is always a gamble and they try to take calculated risks, then have backup plans. 'Hearn & AJ conquer America' didn't go too well recently, but that's how the cookie crumbles.

    Why would anyone care if Top Rank/ESPN etc. lose money, Fury is still getting his salary, so it's a success for him. I like Fury but I'd love it if Top Rank/ESPN took huge losses on him, it would be hilarious. Watching scumbag business sharks lose is always satisfying.

    The fight was probably a failure for Fury, though, we can say that. The cut, delay in training and uncertainty going into Wilder fight probably wasn't worth the money and extra exposure. But that's the risk you take with every fight. Wilder could tear his shoulder bashing Ortiz's skull in and his RH might never be the same again. But if you don't keep fighting, you lose form. It's just one of those things.
     
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    Not brilliant, has to be said.

    Mind you, if things get really tough, Fury can always appear on Masterchef. Apparently, celebrities get paid hundreds of pounds per show. Sometimes a thousand pounds.

    I'm sure he's got a tasty hedgehog burger recipe that would prove a winner...
     
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    It was quite hilarious when the Mexican heavyweight champion of the world called out Fury for fighting on Mexican independence week, "representing" Mexico and telling him to stay in his lane. Champ was right. But Fury couldn't sell out Manchester Arena in his hometown when he was a world champion fighting ATG Wladimir Klitschko. That is why he isn't staying in his lane and tries to con Mexicans and Americans by fighting in Vegas. Fury isn't a draw in boxing, that's a fact.
     
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    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Right, so the 80 Million or 100 million as part of his contract is paid how? And from where?
     
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    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I suggested that they might be gambling with losses to build up to a Wilder rematch and recoup, but this is just plain stupid, I see no data, or any analysis that suggest that the rematch would be as big as they think it is. That's insane.

    Even if it all went smooth and they fought each other in 2020, I don't see it generated the numbers required to recoup their losses, pay fury the contract money, and make a profit. NO WAY.

    So I still ask, where are they getting the money from to pay one man, this much money, when his revenue for each fight is disgusting compared to the likes of say Mayweather. Why would they pay Fury such an obscene and unjustifiable amount, an unremarkable fighter in terms of pure entertainment, gambling cannot be sustainable at this rate... 100 million is no joke.
     
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    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    In other news, Usyk vs Spong has sold out the arena. And the undercard is dismal as well, yet it still sold lol haha matchroom as well, not even Top rank.

    10,000 tickets
     
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    I care when entities like Espn, Dazn, Sho, ect, lose money... because they are the vessels that keep boxing afloat to a large degree.

    If espn and dazn begin losing big money on boxing without recouping their losses in superfights, its very realistic that they leave the sport to a large degree and scale back quite a bit of boxing coverage, so... why wouldnt I care how they are doing?
     
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    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    HBO Boxing ended after 45 years due to poor viewer ratings.
     
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    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    AJ vs Ruiz still did way better, with last minute changes, it sold very well, with 19,000 in attendance, against a huge underdog. Previously, AJ had no exposure to the US Market, whereas Fury had already fought Wilder (USA's champ) and clearly that did nothing for Fury's selling power over the pond.

    Also, the tickets for AJ vs Ruiz were way more expensive.

    Hell even USYK, and SPONG have sold more tickets. And filled the arena to capacity.