Why do you think the Wladimir vs Fury fight never happened?

I just saw a guy that looked like Tyson Fury in the Wallin fight. The real Fury was nowhere to be seen. It's a sad thing to me that you can have a mountain of talent, but without single minded focus of effort, it will not get you anywhere. I hope that TF has it within him to gather himself to get that focus back.

 

He was, is and will be nuts.

 

And Ortiz accepted that and then radio silence from Whyte's side.

Why should Pulev do the same? it went to purse bids, Matchroom lost, Pulev won, and then Whyte pulled out.

Those are the facts.

Not being obtuse or thick headed, i'm stating facts and you, as usual, are being ignorant and throwing insults.

 

These posters are idiots, they cannot comprehend what you just said, because in order to to that, you have to think about it from a relative point of view - forget the 4 million, you as a human getting the short end of a business deal, twice. And going home like an idiot, losing out on a lot of value.

 

You are not stating facts, because you cannot prove Ortiz accepted Whyte's offer to come down to UK as a main headline event...

Open challenge for you, until then... stop talking about the subject if you can't prove that simple fact.

It's obvious to any homosapien Whyte is a DRAW, not ORTIZ, O2 has been having a long line of success with Whyte, tell Ortiz to buy a ****ing plane ticket and come down and get some money and ass wooping.

But guess what>? Ortiz aint about that life... why? He pulled the same stunt with AJ when offered 6 million, then in the end he was like "oh oh, team mis communiciation" we were holding out for more... GTFO..

LIKE I SAID ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS, Ortiz is old and should be retired he has no business turning down that business from AJ.

Whyte? Was always going to be on the cards in regards an AJ bout, it is a money fight that will always be on the tabel given the gruidge (and previously the WBC Mando that Whyte had)

 

After Fury got beat up by #46 Wallin we can see why he avoided Wlad. Motivated Klitschko even in his 40s would KO him.
Fury is a conman, who is still cashing in on that victory.

 

I didn't say "IF" at all ... I said IT is the other way round, when previously in the convo/topic there were allusions to Pulev and Ortiz having priority in negotiations when they don't, it is Whyte... as the far bigger draw than both combined.

People on here always say oh Joshua is the draw, Whyte should take what he is given, business and popularity drive the A-SIDE... but when Whyte is the A-draw nobody wants to accept it.

Well guess wat? Go **** yourself then. Becuase I don't deal with double standards/

 

Because Fury is a fraud.

 

Haha you half right, but this guy misquoted me, I never said "IF" and I never brought up Pulev's IBF. Not concerned with it.

 

Yeah the purse bid was bull**** thats why, Whyte counter offered with more revnue and more money on the table, Pulev just had to bring his arse down to UK.

They lowballed the hell out of Whyte, like 150K or something???? Only to then get lowballed by AJ too? Ha

 

There's nothing King Kong about Ortiz, or Cobra about Pulev. Pipe down, they are easy nights work for Whyte.

Whyte takes on young, hungry, fit, healthy skilled dangerous opponents like Rivas and Parket, not old men hiding in their care homes.

02 Arena, come down, get paid.

 

There you go....then Whyte tucked his tail between his legs and fought Chisora instead. https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/431392/ruthless-cuban-heavyweight-luis-ortiz-dillian-whye/

Didn't mention whether Whyte was a draw or not, his numbers would suggest he is though. Still doesn't change Ortiz accepting to come over does it?

See above. That's not a reason for "why" he isn't about "that life" btw.

So should he be retired or should he have accepted? Make your mind up

This must've been meant for someone else as it has absolutely nothing to do with what i said

And you've never torn anything apart, unless you mean ignoring what someone has said and just answering with random statements. That's your forte

 

@BoxingABC1 ^^ Fix up your lousy post please, so I can tear it apart.

 

Remarkable cherrypicking out of context
Whyte fought Chisora? This is your evidence for him ducking Ortiz? Funny how you spin things to suit your narrative, it's not simply Whyte moving on after negotiations fell through, it is Whyte ducked Ortiz... right... mhmmm...
You think you are smart by posting that link? You are not.. here, let me use your tactics:
Ortiz vs Travis Kauffman.
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2018/12/luis-ortiz-vs-travis-kauffman-preview-prediction/
LOOOOOOL OH WOW, Travis, look at mighty king kong, duck Whyte a real contender to take on King of the ring Travis.

The difference? Chisora and Whyte got paid MILLLIONS what Ortiz get? A happy meal? And a fan for life in you?

Why wouldn't it change Ortiz accepting to come over??
Fight as an undercard for chump change, or fight on a maincard for majority take home winnings?
Are you chump? Are you part of the chump union or something? Did I offend your chumphood for suggesting Ortiz fit a mainbill card at the O2 against Whyte? How much does a plane ticket cost? 300 bucks? How much will he take home by fighting Whyte? LIke 3000 times that?
#ChumpMentality.. just can't win with your type

Yes it very much is a reason for "not being about that life"
Let explain the obvious to yourself. See repeating the same mistakes gives us a pattern, Ortiz ducked a lucrative deal with Whyte, and then ducked an even more lucrative deal with AJ.

Both actions together confirm a pattern in chump behavior, and a tendency to duck. See Ortiz is 75 years old, he cant afford to say no to these types of fights and paydays, because he only has so many left in him.

And when offers like this land on your desk, and you say NO, then what are you even doing in the business? You go on to fight Cojanu, Kauffman, and Wilder for chump change? Whyte is young, got plenty of time left, Ortiz does not after living through an unremarkable career, based on his chump actions and chump decisions.

Whyte is top of the world, carving a name and resume out of granite. Only yourself and select few others deny it, but the thousands and millions who pay to see Whyte, know just how good he is.
He is a chump, you are defending the chump's actions, which makes you a chump too.

said a million times, he should have accepted else he should retire.

Nope, again let me explain the obvious to you (you would seriously fail so many detective tests)
It has a lot to do with the topic, because you previously berated Whyte stating he was ducking AJ when he refused the deal offered, which is incorrect,

AJ fight was always gonna be there for AJ even if AJ aint champ. He is holding out for a better deal...

But what's Ortiz excuse? Its a once in a lifetime opportunity he got offered by AJ, and Ortiz said no to AJ, thus reaffirming a pattern of duck behavior on his part, and further proving my entire point. As AJ would say "It is so, so relevant".

Ortiz has a history of ducking, Whyte has a history of taking on credible contenders, and making a ton of cash doing so, and earning way more ratings that Ortiz or Pulev. He doesn't need to duck anybody, he is not even a titleholder, because he is ducked, he offered 12 million to he champ, and still got ducked

Err no, my forte is writing factual things, it's really easy because I don't have to make things up. Your forte? Spinning facts to suit your narrative and taking things completely out of context... Whyte ducked Ortiz because Whyte fought Chisora. Wow, oh Wow. Need I say more? Nope, I'll leave it to the readers to decide..

 

This!

Fury is not completely wrapped mentally, and on the heels of his biggest success, he simply went off the deep end. Honestly, he's still kinda off the deep end even now. The clock is ticking before he unravels again.