Ali / Frazier Relationship

Yep, have watched that a few times down the year's.

 

Number is issues caused Frazier’s latter years bitterness.

Frazier lost most everything. Ali had the life of a millionaire.

Joe as the years went by lost some of his mental capabilities and drank quite a bit.

All leading to the bitter old man we saw prior to his death.

 

Ali also took Frazier's money. Frazier defended Ali. Ali never gave it back, and betrayed his trust.

He called him an uncle Tom, probably the worst insult at the time for a high profile black man. What's funny is Ali was the privileged middle class kid, whilst Frazier was poor as **** and worked the land (which you seem to fetishize, yet exempt Ali).

Ali constantly hounded Frazier. He got his kids bullied at school. He made black media hate Joe.

And after all the beatings they gave each other, the war of words, Ali wanted to apologise to make himself feel better. Yet he couldn't even do it to his face. Cowardly.

No wonder he was bitter towards Ali.

 

No. That does not explain the original poster who cites a point in the late 70’s where Joe was warm and friendly towards Ali. He grew bitter way after as he became old, broke, drunk and impaired. All the bitterness then rise to the top.

 

You could atleast respond to me directly as I am doing to you. Cowardly.

You seem to fetishize the working class laborer boxer, yet continually exempt Ali, who behaved like a piece of **** towards Joe Frazier and never worked a day in his life. Hypocrite. Joe is exactly the type of man that you love Dempsey and Jefferies for.

Frazier was bitter because Ali performed unjustified actions towards him for over a decade. He seemed to be full of life for everyone else and his gym.

 

Joe might have been getting paid to be there. Just sayin...

 

Ali had squandered his $ as well. He made more than Frazier did but with all those leaches and people riding him for $ he was in bad financial condition near his retirement. His friends tried to help him but Ali didn't have the education or attention to detail to deal with them maturely.
Hence the story of Don King ripping Ali off for $1 million by showing him $50,000 in cash after the Holmes fight.
It was Ali last Wife who revived his financial state. She was able to market him and used his name as a brand in an buisness saavy way.

 

Ali had a few years where he was headed in the wrong direction financially. However with the guidance of his last wife he was a millionaire many times over.

I never rooted against Frazier in any of his bouts. He was a favorite for many reasons. However in the end Joe was broke, divorced, broken and a drunk. Conversely Ali although a sick man physically was also a millionaire and universally adored. This played upon Frazier especially in later years. You can see the bitterness escalate over time whereas as a younger man there was not nearly as much of an issue.

 

BS any friendliness you saw there was for the cameras. Joe hated Ali's guts since Manila and befor that to a lesser degree. Your completely misinformed here.

 

I don't