Cant for the life of me understand how Usyk not p4p #1

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  1. PunchersChance.

    PunchersChance. Active Member banned Full Member

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    What Usyk has achieved so far is impressive but Cruiserweight is one of the weaker divisions in boxing, it’s nowhere near welterweight in terms of quality. Usyk hasn’t beaten anyone nearly as good as a Spence or a Porter, actually Porter beat him in the AMs for what it’s worth.
     
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    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Double standards because Spence beat Porter about as convincingly as Usyk beat Briedis, but I don't see you claiming Usyk got "exposed". Instead you claim Usyk "dominated" everyone.

    Very transparent.
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Let's break it down pal,

    Usyk has Gassiev, Briedis, Hunter, Bellew, Glowacki, Huck
    All but 2 prime. All the same size. Non with controversy.

    Canelo has GGG, Jacobs, Lara, Cotto, Mosley, Trout and Khan.

    Cotto, Mosley and GGG were all past prime, GGG was incredibly controversial. As were Lara and Trout.
    Jacobs is an excellent win, Khan was coming up 2 weights from a weight he was already small for.

    Usyk > Canelo
     
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    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Nice post! Objective and unbiased.
     
  5. PunchersChance.

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    Yep and Porter is far better than Breidis.
     
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    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Boxing still has a heavy nationalist bias to it.

    It is not something that has ever affected my enjoyment of certain boxers. But many cannot enjoy a fighter or give them credit unless they are from the same country or the same race as them.

    It leads to many fighters not getting any credit in certain parts of the world with certain groups.
     
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  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    No way Porter won in my opinion. Spence went backwards. Also Briedis is way better than Porter.
     
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    LOL
     
  9. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk is the only guy to clearly separate himself from the rest of his division.. Nobody else has come close.. For that reason he should be P4P #1 until proven otherwise at Heavyweight..

    Inoue is on that path but he needs to fight the #2 and 3 guys in his division
     
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  10. Oakland Billy Smith

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    My man, no one will remember any of Usyk's opponents ten years from now, because they themselves are pretty overrated . Huck would be the best of the bunch, and he was in his prime 10 years ago, and was still.getting KOd by guys like SS cunningham.

    Tony Bellew will be remembered better as a movie star than he will ever be remembered as a fighter.

    Canelo has indeed faced some of his top opponents past their primes, but not nearly as badly as Marciano did, and Marciano's legacy is sage and secure in history.

    I would also submit to you that even Canelo's loss to Mayweather tops mostly all of Usyk's win.
     
  11. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk is the man.
     
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    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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  13. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, Porter beat Usyk 14 years ago I believe.

    Auggie Sanchez beat Floyd twice I believe too.

    Nothing wrong with losing to the better (at that time) and more polished amateur opponent.
     
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    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Crawford did it and moved up. Usyk is 2 years behind Crawford.
     
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    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Mayweather avenged it and beat Augie twice. Thread isn’t about Mayweather.