Cant for the life of me understand how Usyk not p4p #1

May be i just don't think very much of anyone on that list. You can clean out divisions all day long but if it's filled with no hope wonders, who really cares?

 

The best fighter in the world is the guy who can beat everyone.

Not the guy who can't beat anyone who weighs more than him.

That's why the heavyweight division was historically held in higher regard. Because the best heavyweight was the guy who could beat everybody.

People on message boards who tend to be adamant about pound-for-pound ratings are people who don't tend to go to a lot of fights in person.

If you see these smaller weight champs in person, they're tiny humans. Many are smaller than an average sized adult. It can be jarring. You don't expect it.

They might be 5'7" and look super tall and muscular on TV next to another guy who is 126 pounds, then you see them in person and they are smaller than many teenage girls.

But they all fill the same amount of screen, when watching on a computer or television, as the larger fighters do, so people hold the smaller fighters in the same or higher regard.

If you see a reigning world heavyweight champion in person, you tend to get it.

When I saw Lennox Lewis enter the arena when he was the world champion in my mind I went "there is the guy who can beat everyone in the world." When I saw Erik Morales, I thought, boy, he's little.

When Floyd Mayweather walked on stage with Maria Sharapova, people laughed. The hot tennis player was bigger and heavier than the guy everyone was saying was Pound-for-Pound the best fighter in the world. At that point, Serena Williams could've probably beaten Floyd's butt in a fight.

The pound-for-pound debates are just fantasy stuff.

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You're crazy. The biggest boxing stars of the last 20 years are Floyd, Pac, and Oscar.

 

And Wlad could beat all of them.

That's why pound-for-pound is all make believe.

Now that he's back at heavyweight, we'll see about Usyk.

But I'm guessing Usyk didn't scamper down to cruiserweight after a couple pro fights and go after titles down there because he was confident he could beat anyone in the world.

If he believed he could beat anyone, he'd have focused on the heavyweight division from the get go.

 

I’m done, that’s an ignore list entry right here.
You clearly post to attract attention, no love for the sport at all.

 

P4P is to determine the most SKILLED fighter, not who would literally beat everyone up right there and then.

How come **** like this needs to be spelled out for you?

 

Because his victories arguably or certainly combine to lesser than Canelo, Lomachenko, Ioka, etc.

He is definitely toward the tippy top and everybody has him up there so if you think he's underrated, I don't see that.

 

boxing is a what have you done for me lately kind of sport

 

Serge: Dawejko is too "risky" for Usyk.

 

Its still make believe status. There is no real way to compare heavyweight and fly weight skills while taking away of their physical traits fairly so you can get to pure skill category

 

He hasnt done enough, simple as

 

Of course it’s make believe in a way, but you can compare skills of fighters in different weight divisions.
Elephant in the room type of example - Lomachenko is light years ahead of AJ in skills department. He’s ahead of the whole current HW division. P4P he’s a better fighter than them.

 

Guys from lighterweights are always considered being light years ahead in skills in p4p and they constantly edges top heavyweights.
But big 250lbs heavyweight cant look as smooth as lighter weights. Its very hard thing to rank objectively

I would actually prefer boxrecs take on it because their point based computer system is pretty good for fantasy rankings like that.

edit. Looks like Usyk is not number 1 in that either. That style of listing by achievments would make Canello number 1 p4p