Mickey Walker VS Freddie Steele

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by roughdiamond, Oct 4, 2019.


  1. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Obviously those that watched them both strongly believed Walker to be the far greater fighter.
     
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  2. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    So you can't debate his point, give no logical counters, and instead criticise his age?

    Very funny. The forums laughing at you Perry.
     
  3. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    What happened to the historians quack? Names please?

    Has your slow mind finally realised this is a H2H match up?
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Perry your at least a 50 year old man who just got his ass handed to him by a 15 year old on a boxingforum. Get out of your ass and just Grow the **** up
    That is litterally all irrelevant. If you think Walker wins, great. Break it down. And if not don't chat to me.
     
  5. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fleischer never stated he watched Fitz in actual bouts. He watch an old Fitz in exhibitions long after his career was over. A liar also? Are you Seamust in disguise?
     
  6. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Trying to be pedantic and go off topic, are we?

    Names please? Do you understand H2H? How do you break down Walker vs Steele HAND TO HAND?

    You are losing an argument with two teens on a niche boxing forum. Do you understand how pathetic that is? A supposed knowledgable classical poster?

    Have you ever actually boxed?
     
  7. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again your sum worth is zero George. You know nothing of the sport and every post proves this to be true. No historian during those times felt Steele was a greater mw
     
  8. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Hello, I'm still here. Or is your old addled mind mixing me and George up?

    Names of the historians please. How do you break down Walker vs Steele H2H? Can you envision it? Have you actually boxed?

    Please, sources. Please.
     
  9. George Crowcroft

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    To try and get a very good H2H match up back on track I'll give my breakdown of why I think Steele takes this at MW.

    For me it's a classic style match up of a Boxer Puncher vs a Swarmer. That's where my prediction starts then I take into account we're talking about an ATG MW Boxer Puncher who was big for the division vs an ATG Swarmer was really a Welterweight.
    But that's not the B all and End all. When I look at the little nuances of the pair of them it favours Steele more imo. Walker walks forward winging wide shots and for the most part relied on his chin as a defence for counters, which Steele was very good at delivering. Walker would be tasting hard leather constantly.
    Walker would also be walking forward onto Steele's jab and uppercut which would be marking him up and taking rounds as well.

    Now don't take this as me Shitting on Walker, he is an obvious ATG and the higher regarded fighter, he is a tough night for anyone south of LHW and could potentially beat anyone of that range as well. But here after breaking it down, which didn't really take that long, I don't think he wins.
     
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  10. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    I basically see it similarly to you, except I can definitely see Walker landing the left hook repeatedly on the classical stanced Steele. Hard fought win for Freddie IMO.
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

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    Oh my ****ing days can you get it through your ancient head that the debate isn't about that.

    Don't chat to me about lack of knowledge of the sport. At 16 I doubt you were in debates with guys more than 3 times your age about fighters who fought 100 years ago.
     
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  12. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Doubt the guy was competing and sparring every single week either. Total quack.
     
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  13. George Crowcroft

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    Tbf I don't spar every time at the gym so I don't every week but when I do I really go for it, in a put effort in type of way, not to knock the guys head off.
     
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  14. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    I don't spar hard every week. Different levels of intensity. Otherwise I'd have a brain like Houdini's lol.

    Learning is the aim of the game.
     
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  15. Seamus

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    Why don't you create your own argument regarding Walker's superiority to Steele as a middleweight and not rely on these self-ordained historians as a crutch. Because they are, in general, a very intellectually weak lot. But then again, I could see how they appeal to you.
     
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