Mickey Walker VS Freddie Steele

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  1. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    So... who else is picking Walker over Steele?
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not many, it's not like it's a bad thing to do. I'd just like a breakdown of why
     
  3. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    No one said it would be easy for either man. It would be a war.

    I don't understand the problem here.
     
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  4. JohnThomas1

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    Cliff Rold

    25) Roy Jones Jr. (1989-Present)
    24) Holman Williams (1932-48)
    23) Marcel Thil (1920-37)
    22) Tommy Ryan (1887-1907)
    21) Teddy Yarosz (1907-22)
    20) Gene Fullmer (1951-63)
    19) Sam Langford (1902-26)
    18) Mike Gibbons (1907-22)
    17) Charles McCoy (1891-1916)
    16) Tony Zale (1934-48)
    15) Charley Burley (1936-50)
    14) Jake LaMotta (1941-54)
    13) Ezzard Charles (1940-59)
    12) Marcel Cerdan (1934-49)
    11) Dick Tiger (1952-70)

    8) Mickey Walker (1919-35)
    Record: 93-19-4, 60 KO, 46 No Decisions, 1 No Contest
    World Champion 1926-31, 3 Defenses
    Middleweight Champions/Titlists Faced – 3: (Harry Greb, Tiger Flowers, Lou Brouillard)

    If he suffers in comparison to the Middleweights ahead of him, it is only because his resume against Middleweights is slightly limited. The best Middleweights he faced, in his prime and late in his career, had a better time against him than most of their heavier counterparts. It’s a small difference and, considering the men above and below him, nothing more than hair splitting amongst a pool of fantastic talent.

    5) Freddie Steele (1926-41)
    Record: 125-5-11, 60 KO, 1 No Contest
    NBA/NYSAC Middleweight Titlist 1936-38, 5 Defenses
    Middleweight Champions/Titlists Faced - 8: (Ceferino Garcia, Gorilla Jones, Fred Apostoli, Vince Dundee, Babe Risko, Ken Overlin, Solly Krieger, Al Hostak)


    Why He’s Here: Steele might be the most underrated Middleweight in boxing history but there are reasons for that, fighting the bulk of his career in the Pacific Northwest and his rapid descent from his peak strong among them. None of those things outweigh the body of work he built or the skills he had.
     
  5. JohnThomas1

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    Fighters heaped praise upon him (Steele). Mickey Walker called him “the hardest short-puncher in history.”

    Gorilla Jones picked him as “the best all-around fighter I ever fought.” Fred Apostoli said the same thing. “He heaved his bombs in all directions,” Apostoli recalled (see McCallum 1975 p 151).
     
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  6. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Oh my oh my.
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    The deeper one digs into Steele the more impressive it gets. Steele is absolutely the Reele Deele.
     
  8. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When people wonder why quality posters leave the forum or seldom post again, return to this thread and discover why. This could be a potentially good thread to discuss the nuances of 2 different styles apart from who may or may not be greater....instead we have 12 pages of regurgitated drivel and a self proclaimed bazooka. No need for me to give my thoughts in this thread as it would get lost in the mess. A shame....well done bazooka !
    I appreciate your efforts in this forum @roughdiamond even if in this case they were wasted on bias nostalgia and people who want to bait you into an argument rather than discuss boxing. Catch you in your next thread
     
  9. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What does this mean? What is Crowcroft?
     
  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Look at my surname
     
  11. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh! Never heard someone cheerlead themselves beyond high school.
     
  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm in High school
     
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  13. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My point. I need a bloody Mary. Too much beer for me last night. Had fun though. The only time this place is exciting is when the bulls lock horns and battle. All this milquetoast praising each other can be rather boring. Always remember the great Ty Cobb's lifetime motto; "I'd cut the heart out of my best friend if he ever tried to block my road." Words to live by friend.
     
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  14. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Are you off your medication? Your awfully brave. Packs of young people are like snow, you stay away at your age.