Mickey Walker VS Freddie Steele

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  1. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did not appear in the top ten via RING until 1934.

    He was also never considered comparable to Walker nor considered an ATG from that time. Hard puncher from a land of tomato cans.
     
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    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Who says he wasn't considered comparable to Walker,you? He has a better middleweight resume.
    Walker's winning the title from Flowers was widely seen as a robbery.
    The Chicago Tribune had three reporters at ringside and all scored Flowers as a decisive winner. "The referee was the sole arbiter in Illinois rule (at this time). "Referee Benny Yanger said he based his decision on Walker landing the cleaner punches, and that Flowers only slapped with an open glove. Tiger also was guilty of sticking a thumb in Mickey's eyes on occasion, and also of heeling..Spectators at ringside couldn't believe it when the saw Referee Yanger hold up Walker's hand as the winner." Flowers was down in round nine. The gate was $77,137." From the Chicago Tribune, Bob Soderman.
     
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  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Firstly, this scenario discussed in this thread is head to head, a snapshot comparison of abilities not a career assessment. This is a point you seem incapable of grasping.

    Secondly, your portrayal of Steele's career is embarrasing slanted and misinformed.

    Steele appeared in the Top Ten in 34, 35 (1), 36 (1) and 37 (C). In 1933, Ceferino Garcia was ranked number 3 at welter. This, after Steele obliterated him in Sept. 1932.

    When he retired in 38, he had beaten 3 of the top 5 ranked middles.

    As far as tomato cans, I assume you include Garcia, Kreiger, Overlin, Risko x3, Gorilla Jones x2, Lesnevich, Dundee and Apostoli on that list.
     
  4. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Steele entered the middleweight rankings in 1934 and he was gone by 1938 which is what you just posted. A very short time at the top ten of the middleweight division.

    Again the Pacific NW was a low level talent area so it makes sense his career was built primarily upon these NW tomato cans. I am not disputing he had some good wins.

    I never stated you could not discuss a hypothetical match. I simply pointed out that Steele was never rated historically in Walkers league. Walker was always termed right along side Greb. SRR, Ketchel all time. Steele was generally not considered top ten material.

    One point that also needs to be remembered is that NY was the Mecca of boxing in the 1930’s. The big time. Steele’s first bout here in the big time he was obliterated then he was gone.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    So will you now give a breakdown of why you think Steele wins?
     
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  6. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Y'all still talking over here?
     
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    Excellent and devastating rebuttal!
     
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    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Steele had 4 years as a ring ranked top ten Walker had 5 . So bad was the decision that gave Walker the title from Flowers that in his first year as champion Flowers was rated above him by the Ring!

    1926
    1.Tiger Flowers
    2.Mickey [url]Walker[/url], Champion
     
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  9. The Malibu Mauler

    The Malibu Mauler Lakers in 5 Full Member

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    203 replies, the wars on classic never fail to surprise me :argue:
     
  10. KeedCubano

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    HAHAHA LOL YOU THINK AN OLD SCHOOL BUM LIKE WALKER WOULD BEAT STEELE?
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Holy **** what a pair of knob-heads. Why? Why?
     
  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Woah don't blame me
     
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  15. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    this post would have more dramatic effect if you (trying to keep it simple) tapped edit....then highlight the whole post...then click the U....this needs to be underscored the whole way or it just comes off wimpy!