Fighter of the decade.

I don't think Pac has the best case for winning the award, Mayweather and Canelo both probably have a better case, but Loma? Heck no, how about we compare Pac's resume this decade with Loma's;

Bradley (x2) vs GR Jr; The Bradley win is easily, easily worth more than Loma's win against Gary Russell Jr (Loma's best scalp IMO). Bradley is a HOF bound fighter, with wins over multiple, former title holders including undefeated Alexander and Peterson and an ATG in JMM who was coming off the biggest W of his career, in his prime Bradley was a regular feature in the top 10 p4p fighter list. GRJ has one good win against an old Jhonny Gonzalez and 4 title defence against tomato cans, not much to say.

Clottey vs Walters; Clottey was pretty much the Yordenis Ugas of the 2010s, the man gave a possibly, plastered Margarito a close fight and his razor close L to Cotto was not without controversy, as the fans and media had mixed opinion on who was more deserving of the W. He also holds decent victories over Chico and Judah. On the other hand, Walters built his rep by knocking out Donaire who was fighting 1 or 2 divisions above his effective weight class, against a ok fighter his own weight in Jason Sosa, he failed to perform. I think Clottey is a better scalp here, putting up tough fights against 2 very tough, world class, in prime, HOF caliber WW is more impressive than beating an overblown Donaire; actually Clottey has a pretty similar W (thou admittedly not as impressive) against lightweight great, Chico Corrales.

Thurman vs Linares; Thurman before his injuries was a force at WW, a lot of people like to bring out the Josesito near KO to point out that Keith is no longer the same fighter but what is usually not mention is the fact that something similar already happened to the pre injury version of Thurman against a faded Collazo, Thurman could get hurt by lesser fighters true, but still, that glaring weakness didn't stopped him from beating D. Garcia and Porter, both very high quality opponents. Linares on the other hand, was a strong champ of a fairly weak division, his 2 wins against Crolla and his win against Campbell stand out but neither of those guys are in the same conversation as a Porter or a Danny Garcia, him getting KO'd in the 1st by a journeyman after the Loma fight, really hurt his stock as well.

Mosely vs Rigo; Sugar Shane is a no brainer HOF fighter while Rigo dont make it based of his pro career. Still, Mosely career was nearing its end among the top class when he fought Pac despite being the lineal WW just over a year before that fight. On the other hand, Rigo whose probably in the smallish side of a super bantam himself had to climb up 2 div to fight Loma. Not sure about this one.
Margo vs Campbell; I'll let the forum decide

Shot Matthysse vs shot Crolla; Machina still takes this for me, his punching power was unreal, can't believe he hospitalized Kiram with a freakin jab.

Broner > =< Pedrazza, Vargas >=< R.Martinez, Algieri > Marriaga, Rios > whoever is left.

Defeats; Pac Ko'd by JMM and lost a clear UD to Mayweather (I had it 8 rounds to 4 for May).

Controversial fights; Pac's W over JMM in 2011, many though JMM won, personally I had JMM winning the fight with the rivalry being 1-1-1 and the 2012 fight being the rubber match
Pac's L to Bradley, robbery plain and simple, even a blind guy could tell Pac won.
Pac's L to Horn, Horn was essentially allowed to fight extremely dirty without getting penalized, and even so, Pac was still the winner in most peoples eyes (54 press scorecards had Pac winning, 7 for Horn, 5 draw), this was hometown cooking both by the judges and the ref.
Loma's L to Salido; the actual fight was very close, but that was only because the ref allowed Salido to throw combinations on Loma's nuts without repercussions, how Loma found the endurance to not only continue but take it to Salido in the championship round was pretty amazing. Also Salido didn't even make weight.

 

My issue with all three of these guys is the short period of time they reigned (so far for Loma and Usyk).

When you're talking about fighter of the decade you're looking for someone who has created a legacy and fought at the pinnacle for the majority of that decade.

I'm struggling to think of anyone who fits that description for the last decade

 

It’s Mayweather.

Followed by Canelo.

 

No. He only edges Pacquiao slightly. You have to be a fanboy to think his record destroys Pacs post 2010. Mosley (old), Cotto (old), Ortiz (hyped up loser), Guerrero (hyped up loser), Maidana (one dimensional slugger), Alvarez (green), Berto (washed up nobody), Pacquiao (old and injured), McGregor (not a boxer). Seriously, none of those are great wins. He fought two great fighters who were either pre-prime or post-prime and two pretty good fighters both post-prime. It's kind of pathetic that that should be the best this decade produced. An old man, barely active, retired half of the decade, and cherry picking highly ranked but unexceptional opponents is the Fighter of the Decade.

 

Yeah, Donaire did more 2011-2012 than either of them. He's just not getting his props because his time at the top was so short and it happened at the very beginning of the decade instead of at the end.

 

Not sure tbh.

I'd say between Floyd and Pac

 

Pretty detailed for a 1st post.

 

Loma

 

Clottey
Margarito
Mosley
Marquez
Bradley
Marquez
Rios
Bradley
Algeiri
Mayweather
Bradley
Vargas
Horn
Matthysse
Broner
Thurman

Selective picking you have there pal.

 

The journeyman (gatekeeper would have been more accurate) I was referring to was Pablo Cano, who TKO'd Linares in the 1st round not long after the Loma fight. You're right Corrales was past it, he did lost a split decison over a very good Casamayor prior to the Clottey fight but he was pretty much a JWW fighting a LW as he couldn't make weight. Still, prime Clottey was at least a comparable win for Pac compare to Walters, the man arguably drew with a prime, HOF WW in Cotto and was actually winning against Margo until he injured his hand mid fight, his win against Judah was also impressive as later on Judah would prove he still has some gas in left in the tank with a close, albeit controversial win over a prime Lucas (in hindsight its pretty impressive considering Lucas would "beat" Alexander in a clearer fashion, stopped Sotto and destroy Lamont in 3).

I have to admit I'm ignorant when it comes to Inoue, Roman Gonzalez and Usyk, so I can't say much about them but even Loma's resume (which is still amazing in all respect, just not FOTD material) completely destroy's Crawford's. His best wins are against Postol, battle worn Amir Khan and Gamboa who lets be honest, was very good as a FW but underwhelming as a LW/SFW, his sole "quality" W over at 135 was a competitive UD against Darleyz Perez. Crawford essentially beat just 2 champs to unify all the belts at 140, Postol and Indongo, Postol was very good but not great and Indongo was a weak paper champ who somehow stumbled his was to winning 2 belts in a weak division, he doesn't even have a "Gary Russell Jr W" in his resume.

 

5 will be smashed very soon but Donaire been great over the years.

 

Think you're intentionally missing but if not...
... Given 5 of his wins were over B tier guys (the ones I listed), and I intentionally didn't add the 39 year washed up Mosley, or the post-ban sloppy Margarito, or the wasn't ever very good Broner I think you can fairly say his wins aren't great.

Even if we pretend he got the decision against Horn that's not exactly a great win either.

There is no prime HOF type guy on there, the closest is a washed Mosley and a 1-1 (should be 0-2) series with JMM. WOW. FIGHTER OF THE DECADE OR WHAT!

I'm a huge Pacquiao fan but I can't do the mental gymnastics to put him in the top 3, there's no way he should rank above Mayweather anyway... And I'd find it hard to put Mayweather above someone like Roman Gonzalez.

If you want to live in this fantasy world where a win over the 2010 version of Mosley, a win over Margarito and a win over Matthysse is great then feel free.

Pacquiao, for me, was the fighter of the decade for 2000-2009, by some margin, but not the following decade.

 

Tell me why Mayweather from ‘10 till now was better.

 

Bradley is likely HOF bound and prime when Pac beat him arguably 3 times; I'm not gonna bring Gatti up for comparison because we all know his not in the HOF because of his boxing resume, but Bradley's overall record even without the Pac W is comparable to guys like Kosta and Hamed IMO.

Thurman is not HOF bound, yet, but not many fighters right now have a prime Shawn Porter and Danny Garcia in their resume, his elite.

Mosely was not all that different from the version Mayweather beat, most though he won against Sergio Mora prior to the Pac fight, definitely already past his prime thou.

Clottey was the Ugas of the 2010 WW Div; lost a controversial SD to prime Cotto, lost a close UD to a possibly plastered Margarito, a fight we was winning prior to breaking his hands, beat Judah and a battle worn Corrales. Shame the guy dropped from the face of the Earth after getting paid from the Pac fight.

I have the JMM series 1-2-1 (draw, Pac, JMM, JMM), Pac was clearly robbed against Timmy and Horn however.

Not FOTD IMO and I'm a Pac fan, but I figure he should be top 3 or top 5 at the very least, who exactly did Usyk, Inoue or Gonzalez beat that are as close to the HOF as someone like Timmy? I know Roman has that W over Estrada but I have to admit I dont really keep up with the <118 weight divisions and the SMW-Cruiser Div, but I atleast know that Ward's W over Kovalev is even more tainted than Pac's 3rd win over JMM; 1st fight was a robbery, 2nd fight was pretty dirty with the low blows, even Tony Weeks later apologized for screwing up after watching the replay.

 

Honestly, Mayweather should get it. He beat a still good Cotto, Canelo, and Pacquiao. Plus he had 2 mega 4m plus PPVs.