https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2014 This was after beating Donaire, the ring never rated Walters, Chris john, Vetyeka or Donaire as their champ. Matter of opinion, absolute prime or not, 2009 Cotto was still a dangerous, elite WW, you cant deny that, he still had a lot of fight in him and Clottey stood his ground, you are being very knitpicky at this point. You are arguing that Cotto is weak by the time he fought Clottey yet Donaire who got schooled by Rigo and moved up to a weight class to big for him is suppose to be Donaire at his peak? Also Clottey not only survive but was actually beating a "pre mosely" Margarito before he broke his hands mid fight, you can't tell me that Clottey was just your typical, run of the mill, paper champs like.
http://basementgymboxing.blogspot.com/2014/06/fight-night-boxing-weights-rehydration_22.html Clottey weight in 156 against Judah, not much heavier than what you would expect an average WW to weight at fight night. Anyway why does it matter if Clottey weight in at 165 or 154 by fight night? The important thing is for him to make weight during the weight in and that he did, are we suppose to discredit Spence too because he walks around as a SMW. BTW, everyone who watched Judah knows he has always been a tough early round fighter who gradually fades in the 2nd half of the fight, even Mayweather lost 3 of the first 4 rounds against Zab. Anyway, their is nothing lucky about the fight, Clottey clearly won and if history tells us anything, it is that Judah would have withered away during those final 3 rounds.
Dude the overwhelming majority on those fights had a problem with the scores not results, if Canelo was ruled the victory in a 7-5 decision across the board instead of always having 1 wide card nobody would cry foul, it's because of the constant one crazy score that ppl complain.
No, people are rightly mad that he's gotten 4 or 5 gift decisions, which is excessive and massively distorts what his record actually should read.
Awww... not even Lara's buddies and stablemates agree with you. But I bet you believe you're unbiased and know more than them. This content is protected
If Fighter of the Year indicates who might win, then it is hard to envsion Pac. I thought he won at least one time t this decade, but according to Ring it was pre 2010 (3x) he won it. Martinez, Ward, JMM, Stevenson, Kovalev, Fury, Frampton?,Loma & Usyk got Ring FOTY. ESPY FOTY only saw PBF & Pac as deserving for over 1/2 decade, broken by of all people Rousey. Ending with Crawford & Canelo 2019. Seems it would be down those names mentioned. As a result, I think Usyk, Canelo, Loma or Fury will get it. Out of this group I'd go Loma. 1. Beat undefeated Russell Jr. for WBO FW in 3rd fight. Major accomplishment. 2. Within 10 title defenses beats undefeated Walters & Rigndeaux 3. Moved up & takes title from Linares. 4. Hold 3 belts simultaneously. He's beating prime fighters & undefeated. Personally I like Crawford, but would be fine if Loma takes it.
Your claim of Walters being ranked in the top 10 by many, is as big of a lie as you claiming Walters/John/ Donaire was the Ring champ or that Clottey was barely a top 10 WW or that Postol was robbed in the Postol vs Taylor match, show me a credible list that has Walters in the top 10, I just checked both the Ring and TRT boxing archives and neither of them had Walters in the top 10 after the Doniare victory and certainly not before his fight with Loma. You are just grasping straws at this point, Cotto ain't all that in the WW now? Dude he was dominating the scorecards before he stopped Judah in the 11th, he arguably did better against Super Zab than a prime Mayweather did, don't forget Judah was a pretty damn good WW around that time, he wasn't the "has been" who got schooled by Khan later on. Almost everyone thinks Cotto was the rightful winner over Mosely, c'mon man stop making stuff up to support your argument, it was a competitive battle but Cotto was the clear victor. "Partially outbox by Urkal" Urkal won like 1, 2 rounds at the most prior to being stopped in the 11th, your being sneaky at this point. At the end of the day Cotto's accomplsihment in WW is mutiple times better compare to Donaire's accomplishment at 126, Cotto beat Quintana (who would later on beat the feared Paul Williams), Judah, HOFer Shane Mosely and he would later find more success in even higher weights, Doniare on the other hand realize 126 is too high (his only notable win there was a TD in 5 rounds over Vetyeke) for him and is fighting 2 div below that to this day. Yes Donaire and Cotto both have comparable careers, but Walters fought Doniare above the latter's prime weight class, Clottey on the other hand fought Cotto at his effective weight class, that makes a pretty big difference, had Walters beaten prime Donaire at Bantam, the div Donaire stole the crown from Fernanda Montiel, then we are talking a different story. I'm reading between the lines, if Walters didn't beat a peak Donaire, then why would you say that most people had him in the top 10 p4p? Darchinyan was a gatekeeper at that point with more lossest that W in his last 5, Mariagga is a tomato can, Sosa is nothing to brag about (and the fight was technically a draw, Walters shoulda won thou) and their is not much to discuss after them. If it wasn't a peak Donaire he beat, then why o why do you believe most people had him in the top 10, at least someone like Craw has a very deep resume, even thou its filled with paper champs and lacking elite scalps. https://www.eyeonthering.com/boxing/fast-furious-miguel-cotto-vs-shane-mosley some Fan Cotto vs Mosely scorecards https://www.eyeonthering.com/boxing/x-plosive-miguel-cotto-vs-zab-judah some fan Judah vs Cotto scorecard https://www.eyeonthering.com/boxing/sworn-enemies-zab-judah-vs-floyd-mayweather-jr Judah vs prime Mayweather for comparison http://www.tbrb.org/p4p-archives/
I watched that fight, Clottey was winning in all scorecards, most people had Clottey winning in their scorecards and that is with a 3 point deduction for fouls! Some though the fight was stopped prematurely by the ref, who didn't give Clottey any warning prior to the stoppage. Yea because Lightheavyweight don't rehydrate after the weight in is over, dude I wasn't born yesterday, lightheavy fighters dont stay at 170 during fight night, they could rehydrate up to 190+ even. As for the Clottey fight, that fight was actually at a catchweight of 149 and Corrales for sure didn't look like a lightweight or even a JWW by that point, the reason why Corrales didn't want to fight JWW was because even that was too hard for him to make anymore, he was rumored to weight at around 160 against Clottey, while Clottey weighted 169 with fully clothed, shoes, jeans, wallet, everything, I already said this before. Watch the fight, did Clottey look much heavier than Chico to you? I didn't think so, yes he looked heavier, but you are over exaggerating the difference.
Can't be Floyd....he only fought half of this decade, exclude McGreggor. Pacman fought the entire time and was able to regain his title at an old age. Ward went unblemished this decade, with only the first Kovalev fight being a question mark. He should be the front runner., then he also retired going to be 3 years ago. If Canelo can clearly beats Kovalev he should be the #1 over Ward. Then if Kovalev beats Canelo he can also be a contender...ruled LHW Krushing everyone in his path. Very close first fight with Ward, even the second one was a questionable stoppage. Still came back to regain his title, lost it again, regained it twice. Defended it. And now about to KO Canelo or be KOd. If he stops Canelo then he should be at least considered for the spot.
Just stop all the arguing there is only one bona fide Fighter of the Decade !!! SENATOR EMMANUEL DAPIDRAN PACQUAIO!!!
Ward fought 11 times in the decade (starting Jan 1 2010) and went 11-0 (3) interestingly he wasn't much more active that Mayweather, who went 10-0 (2) for the decade. The argument, of course, is competition, but Allan Green, Sakio Bika, Paul Smith and Alexander Brand make up more than 1/3 of Ward's competition for the decade.
Rookie? Brah just because my account is new doesn't mean I'm a rookie, I've been following boxing for 2 decades many of the things you said is just wrong as I already pointed out. - You claim Walters was ranked in the 10 p4p which i proven wrong by with links from the Ring and TRB archives. - You claim Clottey was barely in the top 10 of the WW which once again I prove wrong. - you claim Taylor vs Postol was a controversial win for Taylor yet this link AND the gamethread from this own forum proves otherwise, the controversy was from the unjustified blowout score by the judges not the result. https://www.eyeonthering.com/boxing/josh-taylor-vs-viktor-postol - Now you are claiming Mosely vs Cotto was controvesial and even Harold lederman had Shane winning, yet the link I posted in the my previous proved otherwise and this link right here at time 48:36, shows Lederman rated the fight 115-113 for Cotto, another Boo boo on your part. This content is protected - Also if your argument for Cotto not being all that is his struggle against Judah in the 1st round, a fight Cotto largely dominated, then thats on you. Like I said before, Judah was a terrific early round fight, he took 3 out of 4 against prime Mayweather prior to the Cotto fight and gave Mayweather the only KD of his career (which the ref completely missed), Cotto did better against Zab than a ptime Mayweather but if these fight is your reason why Cotto is an overrated fighter, then you are really being biased. - Stole admittedly was the wrong word, but my sentence at the time was clear, Bantam was the div Donaire could be most dominant on, while at super bantam he was still very good, at FW Doniare wasn't the dominant fighter anymore, it is simply too big for him, otherwise, he wouldn't be fighting 2 div below that ATM. Maybe next time you should make sure what you say are in fact true, instead of using your JOIN DATE as the reason why people should accept your argument, eh MR. OCT 2014 join date.
http://basementgymboxing.blogspot.com/2015/01/what-do-light-heavyweights-rehydrate-to.html Don't know about Erdei but Bivol certainly doesn't stay at 174 come fight night, he might not rehydrate as much as a regular LHW but he certainly comes in the ring bigger than the weight in, another boo boo on your part I'm losing count on how much mistake an "all knowing, 2014 join date" such as yourself is making. Anyway, Clottey wasn't the only WW fighter in history who comes in as a SMW come fight night, are you going to penalized Thurman and Spence as well for doing the same?
2020 is not part of this decade, just as 1930 wasn’t part of the 1920’s decade, or 1980 wasn’t part of the 1970’s. The decade we are in now began January 1, 2010 and ends Dec. 31, 2019.