Fury does not really want to fight Wilder again

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  1. BCS8

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    For the sort of cash those guys make, I'd fight Wilder, ffs. And I would totally get trashed.

    Why would Fury, who outboxed Wilder for 80% of the fight, be scared of ...

    ... hang on there's a telegram at the door.
     
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  2. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Well one of them is...

    Luckily for Wilder, Fury was a shell of the fighter that beat the man three years before. He'd spent that time on drink and drugs. I'm amazed you haven't heard about it, am pretty sure he's mentioned it in an interview.

    Consequently, the battered shell of Fury was only able to administer a brutal schooling for 10 of the 12 rounds leaving Wilder the humiliated beneficiary of a disgraceful rigged decision.

    Fancy not being able to beat a man that had ballooned in weight and lived a life of addiction for the previous two years. How bad must Wilder be?
     
  3. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    These guys are not scared. They fight for a living.

    They are however, maneuvering for the best financial payouts for themselves. The best career moves I guess you could say.

    There is no all-encompassing external governing body that forces the best to fight the best.

    This era is one where the best boxers, or the ones that generate profits, constantly do what they can to minimize risk to themselves and maximize profits. It's not so much about the sport as it is about business decisions made by a fighter and his team.

    With so many sanctioning bodies, they can constantly play that game.

    With so many weight classes, they can gain or lose a few pounds as necessary as well. If course that does not apply at HW.

    I should say i know not all fighters are doing this, but many are.
     
  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I’ve never heard Fury or anyone else state an actual diagnosis or anything involving a psychiatrist or psychologist. His mental health problem seems to have vanished when his boxing license was reinstated. I think he embellished the truth because that’s what he does.
     
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  5. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Klitschko went to fight Jennings in the U.S to build the wilder fight up over in the states .

    How can you say someone is deflecting when Wilders own manager Finkle ( who actually controls him) takes the mic away and says no Klitschko fight as soon as he gets the WBC belt and says hes a baby ?

    You have to be a real head case bc the deflecting would be saying Klitschko didn't want Wilder,its known Fury became Wlads Mando anyway so besides Wilder not going to be allowed to fight Wlad he couldn't at that point . He could've years earlier but the fight he was saved by the bell in 13th against Sconiers made Finkel think twice about matching him up with dangerous guys, and do you think Wlad hurting Wilder in Sparring prepping for Pulev would give any Reasonable chance team wilder remotely lets that fight happen in 2015 ? You are claiming a guy Wlad just dropped in sparring a year prior makes him pick Fury instead ? :babeando:



    You then go on about Wallin. You probably didn't know he was ,most didn't on here but everyone was a Wallin expert afterwards . lol

    See the problem is Wilder fans CANNOT critique other fighters wins.

    Why ?

    Well because Wilders best win is a 48 year old coming off a failed physical where it was almost stopped .

    Wilders second best win is probably Breazeale ,who is neither AJ's or Furys 3rd best win.

    Wilders career is that of getting a gift draw and that guy was about 70% .

    In fact Wallin would be Wilders second best win ,maybe 3rd ? He would also be very problematic ,go watch the Szpilka fight another southpaw he stuggled with who isn't half as good.
     
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  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Certainly helped gloss over the PEDs and subsequent ban.Its like it never happened at all lol.
     
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  7. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His punching is no joke so it’s no good being half hearted.
     
  8. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    If I beat a guy 10-2 and they didn’t want to give into my demands I wouldn’t fight me either. Rematches are for close fights.
     
  9. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I’m not sure you can totally rule fear out when you feel punches like that going though your head. I wouldn’t have thought it before but it wouldn’t surprise me if Fury is thinking about his long term health seeing how this has played out, I wouldn’t blame him. But in this case he should be honest about it instead of saying the fight is signed, then decide to take up wrestling. He clearly doesn’t want it whatever the reason.
     
  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Your post is so dramatic.

    How long have you been watching boxing?

    You seem very naive towards the business side of the sport.

    This sport is a ruthless business.

    He's signed a 5 fight deal with ESPN and Bob Arum.

    Their objective is to hype the rematch as much as possible.

    The first fight did poor numbers. So they signed him with a strategic plan. Since then he's had two fights live in the U.S. he's been on late night TV, and now he's joined the WWE which is a genius business move. The WWE is absolutely huge. It's incredible publicity to get him over to the U.S. audience. It's honestly the best thing that could have happened to him from a business perspective. By the time the rematch happens, you'll have got WWE fans wanting to watch the Wilder fight. It's a careful plan that's been engineered. I don't know why you think that Tyson himself has purposely delayed the rematch and gone out to fight 2 bums instead. No. Again, he has a team behind him with a specific plan in place. When he signed the 5 fight deal, he knew what the long term plan was. The 2 bums were fought to keep him sharp and to enhance his profile. Bob Arum isn't bothered that your average fan doesn't know who Tom Schwartz is. Why? Because Fury entering the ring dressed as Apollo Creed and then singing an Aerosmith song after the fight creates publicity. Arum has said numerous times over the past month that he wants the rematch to be one of the biggest fights of all time. He wants it to be bigger than May-Pac. Now in my opinion, they can never reach that level of interest. But the more exposure Tyson gets, the more revenue they will earn on fight night. Although it's frustrating, it's all very predictable.

    Claiming that Tyson doesn't want to fight Wilder again is absolutely laughable. If that was the case he wouldn't have signed a deal which was all geared towards making it.

    No offence, but your post is bizarre in my opinion.

    The rematch will happen next year.
     
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  11. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If I have to hear Tyson Furry say lineal champ one more time I just might puke. It means nothing.
     
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    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    Aawwwwww dont worry, dedontay so bad he a true chumpion.
     
  13. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    How bad is Fury if he was brutally dropped twice by a man who supposedly has no skill? You keep tip toeing around this!

    The way you guys talk about wilder it would be like if Ali were dropped by David Price.
     
  14. Holler

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    It was no surprise to anyone that saw the Seferi or Pianeta fight. As above, Wilder was facing a shell of a man, hollowed out from years of drug abuse, drained from the impact of dropping so much weight in such a short time. It's incredible that Fury not only went 12 rounds with him, but ruthlessly schooled him in the manner he did.
     
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  15. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Not surprising, Fury ran scared and hid from a Klitty rematch not once but twice.

    I don’t think the Wilder rematch will ever happen, Fury just doesn’t want it.