Fury does not really want to fight Wilder again

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  1. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury is full of ****. not a very good singer either.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, and it wasn't in any way an advantage for him.

    Look at his style.

    Look at his attributes.

    The fact that you don't understand that speaks volumes.
     
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  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, you're confused.

    Finally something we can agree on.

    Now have you anything to add to this debate?
     
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  4. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see the legend of "Hatton was the bigger man!" grows as much as Hatton's size advantage has! Gotta love the simple minded boxing fans... Hatton was heavier, he's bigger! As if straight up weight is the only defining characteristic of size. But guys dumb it down because, well, they gotta dumb most things down to their level of understanding.
     
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  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Claims never to have said that weight doesn’t matter.

    In his next post, supports the stance that weight in boxing, in fact, does not matter.

    When asked if he’s ever boxed, does not respond affirmatively.

    Laughing emoji=you are mad.
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I would assume that not being a fanboy would require acknowledging actual fight results of the fighter who you stand accused of jockeying, rather than fabricated ones.
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He didn't say it didn't matter. He said it wasn't the only defining characteristic of size.

    Weight can be a huge factor, depending on the circumstances.

    Regarding the Floyd-Hatton fight, Hatton's weight wasn't in any way an advantage for him.

    If his optimum weight was at 147, he wouldn't have said that he was never a WW and he'd never have spent 90% of his career as a LWW.

    Hatton's strength was his in your face fighting style, which was based on his stamina and conditioning. He was a pressure fighter.

    The heavier he was, the less effective he was.

    Floyd's huge reach advantage was much more of a significant factor. Yet you didn't even acknowledge it, and you even dismissed it.

    You also said that Hatton fighting as a WW was an advantage for him, as he didn't have to lose as much weight.

    Despite the above, you've then gone around asking members if they've boxed.

    I don't know how you've got the audacity to insult me after what you've said.


    Anyway, we've gone off topic.

    Do you think that Tyson will rematch Wilder?
     
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  8. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WTF are you even talking about drama queen? Quote where I said weight didn't matter dipsh*t...
     
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  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I can acknowledge the fight results.

    Can you acknowledge what his family have said about his mental health issues?

    Can you acknowledge that he's just signed a 5 fight contract with a huge network with the intention of fighting a rematch with Wilder?

    Can you acknowledge what his team are doing in trying to raise his U.S. profile?
     
  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    No, the issue here is that you haven’t boxed so you don’t understand something. Hatton entered the ring against Mayweather in the high 150s, same as always. Floyd entered two or three pounds over 147, his normal weight. Weight advantages are extremely important for aggressive fighters like Hatton. Boxing is a weightclass sport, not a reachclass sport. Reach is one of endless concrete intangibles in boxing, weight can be varied to confer an advantage, like Hatton had over Mayweather.

    We all should have absolute confidence that Fury rematches Wilder in the first quarter of next year, but that isn’t the case.
     
  11. Loudon

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    I don't care that Ricky outweighed Floyd.

    It wasn't significant.

    It didn't give him any advantage whatsoever.

    It has to depend on the circumstances.

    Ricky fought above his best weight class because he couldn't get the fight at LWW.

    Yes, we don't have reach classes. But Floyd has a HUGE reach advantage for a man of his size. He has very long arms. His reach is bigger than Gennady Golovkin's. Sure, he was born with it. It's the way it goes. But he was an ATG, elite fighter who possessed a huge reach advantage over Ricky. An advantage which was hugely significant along with his style and the stylistic match up that he was facing. Yet you won't even acknowledge it as a relevant factor.

    If you'd boxed, you'd know that the above was extremely significant.
     
  12. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I don't care about that idiotic statement you said and expect me to care about when I don't care about you ? STOP

    You're a fool this very thread proves it, doesnt it so why do I need to prove it ?Your doing it now and reinforced it with Wlad ducked Wilder on it ,like it needed more stupidity ,right ?....you CLOWN ! lol

    You didn't refute one thing I said on actual boxing,go play with your crayons kid,meanwhile listen to Wilder tell everyone Furys scared in a fight he already exposed himself in and one hes already signed to again ,with the Usyk is to small to fight as well even though COWARD Wilder challenged Bellew not AJ after the Klitschko fight, yea what about that one since you the moron were dumb enough to open a Wilder thread to discredit other fighters ?

    IDIOTS FOLLOW IDIOTS.....have at it. lmao
     
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  13. Tyistall

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    The difference is, Ali fought everyone who was anyone, for 2 decades before that wrestling match. Fury fought 2 guys and one of them was 40. The rest of his resume is as bad as Wilder's is hahah. They are both a pair of frauds
     
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  14. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    What idiotic statement? Im still waiting for you to prove I said those things. Since you can't, at least have the decency to retract your accusations and slander. You can't expect me to defend my actions if you never actually proved I did what you accuse me of! It's irrational. I have no problem admitting someone is more knowledgeable about boxing then me and no I dont think I'm some "greatly knowledgeable poster" or wise old boxing guru to quote you.

    Clown...? Your post is filled with horrendous grammatical errors. I can barely tell what you're saying. You claim my thread is idiotic but it seems to be getting tons of likes and support, go figure.

    Kid? I'm 4 years older than you dumbass. :lol:

    Sorry that you have such an obsessive need to try and prove you're smarter than me and want me to give you attention. Daddy issues?:eaea:

    I have no interest in having these stupid you tube comment section debates about Wilder's career from 4-5+ years ago.
     
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  15. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    According to Wilder Brezeale insulted his younger brother. He's a hypocrite for taking the moral high ground since he was apparently talking **** about the 2 brothers and his entourage caught wind of it.

    Anyway it doesn't matter now does it? He had a chance to settle things with his fist and got his ass kicked and didnt sue wilder or his group so obviously his whining doesnt mean much.