Usyk Better Than Holyfield? That is Insane

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  1. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What ????
     
  2. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    That kid obviously thinks everybody older than 16 is oooold :rolleyes:

    And cruiser was a ****ing sharktank when Usyk cleaned it out.

    But it is always like this. Whenever a top fighter shows up and destroys a division, it becomes "weak". Before Golovkin started his rampage people were creaming themselves over middleweight. Afterwards, it was a bunch of bums. Again for Klitschko. Again for Louis.
     
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  3. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    At CW, you can absolutely make the argument he is better than Holyfield. It's not a dead set one but you can have the discussion 100 percent. Plus, Holyfield was a ped machine anyways
     
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  4. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I’m a big Holyfield fan, but I think Usyk wins H2H at cruiserweight. And who knows how good of a heavyweight Holyfield would have been without all the PEDs.
     
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  5. fenoc1

    fenoc1 Active Member Full Member

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    Haye wouldnt have beaten Usyk with 6 arms. Go way
     
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  6. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, man, Gasiev in his prime would’ve at least put up a fight but that domination of an old man was so disgraceful that even Gasiev’s trainer wanted to pull him out. How the hell was that a title fight, let alone the fight that determined the undisputed CW champion of the world and the winner of a WBS tournament, is beyond me.
     
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  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    So was Evander in PEDs at cruiser or heavy?

    doesnt look like he was at cruiser
     
  8. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    When did Haye ever defend his CW titles?
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I like Haye and he was a tremendous puncher

    But...

    Here he is getting dropped heavily and very nearly stopped by a career 168 pounder 21-6-1 (7 KOs) journeyman who was 0-4-1 in his last 5 fights. Imagine the flak Usyk would be getting if he got dropped heavily and very nearly KO'd by a blown up SMW journeyman with a KO 21.67% and who was without a win in their last 5 fights? :lol: :facepalm:

    Notice how Haye has to rugby tackle Mock to the canvas to buy more time to allow his head to clear after getting dropped

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    Here's Haye getting knocked out in the amateurs by a tiler

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    That never happened to Usyk in the amateurs in over 300 fights and fighting for a long time at the very highest level or in the WSB against SHW behemoths some of whom were savage punchers at that weight class

    Haye also got stopped by Solis in the World championships

    Haye was also stopped by a 40 y/o Carl Thompson

    Dropped and his legs turned to spaghetti by Mormeck

    Fragomeni gave Haye hell and looked on his way to winning prior to a very tired and bloody looking Haye's power bailing him out. Had the featherfisted Italian possessed even a little bit of pop he would've won

    Who else at CW did Haye beat apart from Mormeck, Fragomeni, Enzo and Gurov both of whom were packing Roy level glass whiskers?

    Haye's not beating Usyk lol
     
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  10. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    I remember Haye and his team doing everything in their power to remove all the videos of him getting dropped or buzzed from youtube when starting his heavyweight run, even if they had zero claim on the footage (network owned).
     
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  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: Yeah I remember that. Finding footage of that back then then was more difficult than trying to find Jimi Hendrix's discography on there is now lol
     
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  12. BCS8

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    Not as difficult as finding footage of Wilder dumped on his ass by Sconiers.

    That **** is goooone. As in, Men-in-Black, gone. Wilder's team scrubbed that away with bleach and steelwool and then got out the power washer.
     
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: Big Al has every bit of recorded footage of it buried deep underground in a vault in secret location.

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  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Heavy for sure, zero question.
     
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  15. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    exactly so why then am i hearing all this PED tall of evander at cruiser