USYK size vs Previous Heavyweight Greats. Exactly the same size as the 70s and 80s elite.

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  1. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    USYK is 6'3, 215 lbs with a 78" reach.
    ALI was 6'3, 215 lbs with a 78" reach.
    HOLMES was 6'3, 215 lbs with a 81" reach.
    FOREMAN was 6'3, 225 lbs with a 78 1/2" reach.

    USYK will show us a lot about how some of the old greats could possibly have faired against the modern Super Heavyweights of today.
     
  2. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruiz is kind of a throwback too :eatingburger
     
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  3. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member Full Member

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    no cause aj sucks. I have said that a million times before he got koed. He was a ko ready to be taken.
     
  4. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Interesting perspective. All of today’s giant guys have major flaws. Not sure how Usyk will do against these big guys but if Ali or George (and Holmes) come back in a time machine and fight any of the big HWs of today, my future money is on them.
     
  5. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    You said a fighter would be KO'd all along and he didn't for a while and when he did you were right all along? Hard to be wrong that way huh.
     
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  6. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member Full Member

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    well lets face it, it is worse to be koed by a 6 foot overweight mexican with only 4 weeks to prepare coming off a fight then to wilder, fury, whyte or ortiz after full prep.
     
  7. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Ali and Holmes relied on jab,Holmes would have more success then Ali ,he already showed that going the distance with Holyfield and defeating Mercer late in his age.

    However none of the guys you named moves like Usyk who is more like Holmes in terms of working off a jab and decent punching power able to dictate true range when to step on and off .

    Usyk winning has no bearing what those guys do,he has more advanatges bc hes a complete fighter more then those guys.

    Usyk isn't the only guy 6'3 either and about 215/220 . theres not as many but just like Mike Tyson ,you cant say Tyson did therefor those guys would. When a 215 pounder is successful its not a open door way for everyone,the fighter HIMSELF actually has to do it ,not a weight .
     
  8. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    No Ruiz is a super heavyweight 269 lbs despite the height
     
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  9. red_roo

    red_roo Active Member Full Member

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    Being tall or short , fat or round all I can say don't judge a book by it's cover all shapes an size can fight as history has shown , AJ just learnt that himself
     
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  10. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I dont think the size is an issue its the lack of punching power that concerns people. Thats what im concerned with. We shall see though. I cant wait to see him in against the big 4
     
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  11. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket The Mothership Connection Full Member

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    I don't expect anyone to take Usyk serious until he faces a real decent heavyweight. I just saw a thread earlier dissing Muhammad Ali and lets not get into how many sack lickers on this site try to tear apart the 5"10" phenom from Brownsville resume.
    Usyk ain't gonna do much for a while and his last fight probably means he will face low teir guys for the next few years. He called put Wilder but after the fight he went silent. Wilder would ****ing baptize him on the canvass river.
     
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  12. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk was born on the same day as Ali (January 17), has exactly the same height and reach as Ali and in this fight Usyk even weighted the same (215 lb). :shocked::smile:
     
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  13. john roberts

    john roberts Member Full Member

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    I don’t think usyk has much bearing on how Holmes, foreman and especially Ali would fare . Let’s take Ali , Number 1 although the same height Ali weighed around 215lbs in his early twenties and in his late twenties and certainly early thirties similar to usyk age now was weighing and fighting closer to 230lbs and was having to punish himself to get down around the 218-220 mark. Usyk as spent time in the gym body building himself up to 215 similar to Holyfield and Haye did. Therefore he is genuinely smaller than the 3 fighters mentioned. 2 although he has speed it’s not reflex instinctive speed it’s more system and fundamental based, which means he is easier to figure out as a fighter as say Ali, plus Ali is faster and more fluid especially side to side lateral and head movement. 3 Ali , Holmes and foreman all had amazing chins proven against some of the hardest hitters in heavyweight history, this is a question mark for usyk at the moment as he has only fought a 38 year old who was a fringe contender at best in his prime. 4 I don’t think usyk has the same power as any of the three fighters mentioned, obviously foreman, definitely not Holmes and not even Ali. After saying all that I do believe he has enough of all those qualities to beat the current champions especially with him being a southpaw.
     
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  14. juhave

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    Wilder was 212,5 against Fury and Povetkin is around 220 and both of them are doing fine. Roy Jones was only 193 lbs when he won WBA heavyweight title. It is not true that fighters in 70s were so much smaller than they are nowadays.
     
  15. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Old, fat slow Foreman already proved how the old timers would do. Let's see If Usyk can accomplish what grandpa Foreman did.
     
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