Who do you think was the better boxer Hagler or Whittaker

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  1. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Pernell was the more skillful all round but hagler was tougher and a bigger puncher. 50-50 tough to say
     
  2. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    What weight class would this take place in? Would this be Pernell of his last fight (the only fight he weighed over 154 for)? Is Hagler cutting to 154 to fight Whitaker of the Vasquez fight?

    Assuming it takes place at 160, whether prime Pernell (who wouldn't fill in at 160) or not, Hagler runs over him.
     
  3. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No I'm not talking about a fight between the two. I'm just asking who is the better boxer.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Whitaker. Hagler had a lot more power and whilst he was an extremely good boxer Pernell by nature relied on sheer skill more.
     
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  5. Sanxion

    Sanxion New Member Full Member

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    Pernell is generally considered to be a ring technician of the highest calibre and Hagler is known for his tremendous toughness and heart.
     
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    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In what categories though?

    Hagler was the tougher, far more durable and determined switch hit boxer. Whitaker was the faster, with better defensive and faster reflexed boxer.
     
  7. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Oh sorry I misread, Hagler accomplished more and was the better overall fighter due to talent but Whitaker was the smoother operator
     
  8. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler was a much better boxer. See him vs. Sibson tear Sibson apart. One of the greatestest boxers I ever saw.
     
  9. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Hagler was one of the best middleweights that ever lived. A terrific boxer with serious ( under rated by some clowns here) KO power. Great reach (75"), tough as nails and an all time great chin. In my opinion at 160 the only chink in his armor was a bit of doubt in himself and it showed when he fought conservatively against Vito (1), Duran and then Leonard. That said, again, he was a true monster and at his best holds his own with anyone in that stacked all time division.

    Pernell Whitaker may be one of the top ten or fifteen P4P fighters that ever lived. His talent and style and boxing IQ were off the chart. At 130 and 145 he had it all .. he was still a dominant force at 147 and even at 154.

    I say Whitaker.
     
  10. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Hagler. He had better footwork and positioning.
     
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    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    And Sibson was one tough *******! Brilliant performance from Hagler
     
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  12. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whitaker.
     
  13. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler was all about hard work and perserverance and the will to win and succeed. Pernell had more skills naturally. Won his title earlier, although that loss to Ramirez was a bad decision. The reason Ray could beat Hagler, had a lot to do with rust and timing, yet Marvin would always be susceptible to the boxer who didn't let him land and counter. Marvin was not the most naturally skilled. He was developed. Hearns gave him what he wanted in a great fight, but should have used his jab in that fight. Duran did well in a slower pace, but Hagler eventually found the target. Hagler is the story of a guy who worked hard and developed his skills with experience and guts. That did not always win against the great boxers.
     
  14. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler really is a great, all-round boxer.

    Whitaker, has a particular specialty in footwork and defensive, upper-body movement; complimented further by noticeable speed and reflexes.

    Hagler, for me.
     
  15. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler was more skilled in his prime (77-83)
     
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