Best journeyman of all time

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  1. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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  4. IntentionalButt

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    I mean, that's quite a can of worms, if we open the door to admit world titlists who just happen to have expansive L columns..
     
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  5. Davepompeydave

    Davepompeydave As bad as can Full Member

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    No world champions will be making my list, or ill have to start considering the likes of Samuel Peter and I'm just not prepared too. Put it this way, Chisora is a gatekeeper in my books, which I suppose is a few levels above journeyman, so in a fantasy fight, if they can beat a gatekeeper like chisora they won't be considered
     
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  7. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Punched his way into the top 10 and only lost a handful of fights. How exactly is he a journeyman?
     
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  8. kdyehs

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    I would say a journeyman is a fighter who is heavily underdog in his first big championship fight, scores an upset, but fails at staying champion, and then disappear from the radar.
     
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  9. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    :lol: Oh, you made up you own definition for the term?

    WIkipedia summarized the meaning really well; and it´s also what most go by:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeyman_(boxing)
     
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  10. Davepompeydave

    Davepompeydave As bad as can Full Member

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    Thanks bro saved me the hassle.

    I'm not after nearly nearly men, that's a whole different topic. Journeyman is the subject, you're own interptions of why they are the best is okay, but not you're own definition of the word
     
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  11. kdyehs

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    Sorry but this wikipedia definition regroups an extremely large number of fighters. Any fighter good but not quite enough to beat the best? Geez...

    Is Brian Nielsen too good for this thread?
     
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  12. Kokiri

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    Ismael Abdoul. Fought every man and his dog at cruiser and only got stopped by one of them (Diablo)
     
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  13. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    You forgot the: "Journeymen will often serve as opponents for young up and coming prospects and will often step in at late notice should a fight fall through. Journeymen are said to have little or no expectation of winning fights against contenders or most gatekeepers, but this does not preclude them from having a winning record against less-skilled fighters."

    Robinson Castellanos is a great recent example.
     
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  14. kdyehs

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    Sorry again but any former great champion on the decline can do that.
     
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    Eric Esch aka Butterbean?
     
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