Same day Weigh-ins. Yes or no?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Goose, Oct 22, 2019.



Bring back same day Weigh-ins?

  1. Yes, it will make boxing safer

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  2. No, it will make things worse

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  3. It won't make any difference in safety

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  1. Goose

    Goose Russian oligarch Full Member

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    Kellerman saying it could help putting fighters closer to their natural weight.

    Should these be brought back? Will it make things better/safer?

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  2. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    I voted yes but that’s to make everything a level playing field in regards to weight cutting/natural weight or size.

    However I think fighters will still make stupid sacrifices, which could in turn make the sport more dangerous.

    Guys who are fighting at 140/147/154/160 should not be walking around at nearly 200lbs.
     
  3. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There would still have to be some regulations to stop folk cutting too much weight.
    Someone like Crawford,Canelo or Hurd would be at real risk of death as they wouldn't have time to blow back up to their original walk around weight.
    I'm not sure how they could go back to this now as it would shake up the divisions which might not be a bad thing as it might shed some light on how some are jumping multiple weight classes all in the name of "daring to be great".
     
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  4. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course not. Why? So guys who dehydrate to a lower weight can get brain damage easier? If the goal is to battle those who put on a huge amount of weight, there are other methods to consider rather that the one they implemented to reduce the amount of brain injures sustained.

    The ABC's can limit the amount allowed to gain. It's not that difficult a concept. The state commissions can get involved. But just going to same day weigh in is NOT the course.
     
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  5. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Personally, if anything I think it would endanger more fighters than it helps.

    Youre still going to have a percentage of fighters killing themselves to make weights they shouldnt be, and now they are going to get pummeled the day of the weigh in instead of having a day to recover.
     
  6. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Yes, it works in the amateurs. Boxing will always be dangerous but at least this rule would reduce the type of size disparity we’ve seen in recent years. The Canelo Khan fight size difference between fighters was pathetic and dangerous.

    They should also have a rule that limits the weight disparity between fighters to No more than 10lbs or so in the lighter weights and a bit more up to LHW. HW is a different story and I don’t think it’s a problem with the big guys.
     
  7. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not should they be allowed to hide their weight on the night.Read something from Virgil Hunter about Canelos true weight on the night against Khan where he said Canelo had to be 180lbs or so in the ring.Very naive of Virgil to expect anything else as Cotto was faced with the same thing and the commentators said as much but Virgil was obviously talking about the scary knockout of Khan that probably would of happened had Canelo weighed 160lbs but 20lbs of extra weight all but ensured the inevitable.
    Those weight classes you highlighted do seem to be where most of the extreme weight cutting and division jumping goes on.I know Paulie M can be a hypocrite but he says only the use of PEDs have made this kinda thing possible.
     
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  8. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol see my post below 're that Canelo v Khan fight.
     
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  9. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Fighters who have to kill themselves to make weight should fight at a higher weight class. If everyone has to abide by the rule it it should be safer and more fair than the current rule. Guys today are rewarded and often have unfair size advantages by boiling down and hydrating to huge weights. Let’s see who is the best at a fighter’s true natural weight, not who is able to game the scales to get an advantage.
     
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  10. kirk

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    Well... yes. Fighters that kill themselves to make weight should fight at a higher weight class.

    That they dont, is why this entire topic is one of boxings major issues year in and year out.
     
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  11. Goose

    Goose Russian oligarch Full Member

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    It maybe true...or those guys will never get to that top level of the sport if they start cutting weight, they will simply be too lethargic to fight and win and should loose pretty fast against guys who are in their weight class.
     
  12. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    I need to start reading other posts before commenting. Agree with you of course. That fight was exhibit A for weight limits. Khan looked like a jockey fighting the hulk. PEDs make this even more dangerous. Drug enhanced fighters with massive weight advances...what could possibly go wrong? How is khan still alive and walking around without serious brain damage? It’s still a dangerous sport by nature but some sensible rules would help level the playing field.
     
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  13. kirk

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    I hate to say it, but... personally I dont really see a whole lot that can be done about this.

    Theres always going to be tragedies in a sport like this, and sometimes, theres no perfect system. I understand the desire for improvement, but, for the most part, I dont see same day weigh ins and rehydration clauses doing a whole lot.
     
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  14. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Boxing is always going to be dangerous, no doubt. Massive size mismatches only make it more potentially dangerous but my primary reason for wanting size parity on fight day is that I want to see which boxer is best at fighting not cheating the scales. Jr. Middleweights shouldn’t weigh 180 plus on fight day. Weight bullies cheat the sport and some simple rule changes would make boxing more fair and safer. It will never be safe, maybe safer should be the goal.
     
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  15. Angler Andrew

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    It's getting to the point where some think jumping weights and fighting at catch weights is the barometer at which champions are measured.
    I'd say someone like Ward who fought in and around the same divisions as he did an amateur is far more admirable and believable than those that cut extreme weight to fight smaller men.
     
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