Uh, Andy Ruiz has only lost ten pounds.

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  1. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boxing skill. Ruiz out boxed Joshua.
     
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  2. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don’t even know where to begin with the nonsense you’ve typed.

    If you are not using gear then muscle gain requires a calorie surplus, fat loss requires a calorie deficit. You can’t have a calorie surplus and a deficit at the same time. It’s literally simple science. Anyone who takes the gym seriously should know this.

    Andy Ruiz has not gained 10lbs of muscle and lost 20lbs of fat in a couple of months. If you believe that then all I can do is laugh.
     
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  3. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes. No point going into levels but I have competed in lots of sports since I was a kid.

    I’ve also been lifting naturally for almost 10 years. If you believe you can naturally gain muscle (which requires a surplus of calories) and lose fat (which requires a calorie deficit) at the same time then you really don’t know what you are talking about and should stop talking about anything gym related.

    you actually believe Ruiz has gained 10lbs of muscle and lost 20lbs of fat in 2 months? Please tell me you’re not that deluded...
     
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  4. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    wow. youre like straight out of 1950.
     
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  5. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you believe you can gain 10lbs of muscle and lose 20lbs of fat in 2 months :lol:

    At least I know you’re either a troll or braindead.
     
    LondonRingRules, Oct 24, 2019
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  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    ive covered what needs to be covered to settle the disagreement, none of it is hard to understand. try re-reading it. also, pay attention to numbers.
     
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  7. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Fluidity, that's a good word to describe him. I also think he doesn't have that drive to go down swinging. Wladimir bared witness that he took his foot off the pedal giving AJ time to recover. The Stay soft Marshmallow man's got a dog inside of him.
     
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  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
     
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  9. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    He was doing good enough to get to this level in his previous weight/appearance. I hope he isn't being guided into a commercial image at the expense of ability.
     
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  10. Sammy123

    Sammy123 Money Maker Staff Member

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    - You can in fact gain muscle and lose fat at the same time on a calorie deficit. You don't need a calorie surplus from eating to build muscle, the body can use the stored fat for this purpose under certain conditions. This mainly occurs for people who are obese and never weight lifted before who begin a calorie restricted diet and starts weight training, they WILL build muscle and lose fat at the same time. It also occurs in military boot camp, plenty of recruits coming out with less fat and more muscle despite having a negative calorie intake (and not because they are on a calorie restricted diet, they eat as much as they can but their energy burn is greater due to rigorous training).

    There's a large library of resources that covers this "simple science".

    - That being said, Andy Ruiz isn't likely to be one of those people because despite his appearance he's an athlete. He's probably not even on a calorie restricted diet, he eats whatever he wants and burns more than he eats. That will result in natural weight loss while not losing muscle. He shouldn't be gaining muscle anyway since that will slow him down, and boxing specific training focuses on endurance, not muscle size or strength.

    I expect Andy Ruiz to come in more trim, about 10-15 lbs lighter (because he was 10lbs over his prior fighting weight when he fought Joshua), but no major shift appearance wise. He's training for a boxing match, not "The biggest loser".
     
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