Can Somebody Please Explain why Spence is pfp top 10, and Crawford is top 3?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by George Crowcroft, Oct 26, 2019.


  1. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    The best fighter Canelo has faced is Floyd, who toyed with him despite being nearly 37 years old. It was one of Floyd’s easiest fights, and Canelo put in an embarrassing performance, landing practically nothing of note. The second best fighter Canelo has faced is GGG, and the majority of people feel that GGG won the first fight. Many people, myself included, also feel that GGG won the second fight...or at best for Canelo, it could have been a draw. And this wasn’t prime GGG either; Canelo made sure to wait until he got old to fight him. So in my opinion, Canelo has lost his 3 biggest fights. He also probably lost the Lara fight (or at best got a draw) if we are being objective about it. Add in the positive clenbuterol tests, weight bullying / catchweight fights, unfair judging in his favor, and lack of quality, CONVINCING wins, and Canelo is definitely behind Usyk and Loma in the P4P rankings. Here is my list by the way:

    1) Loma
    2) Inoue
    3) Usyk
    4) Crawford
    5) GGG
    6) Canelo
    7) Estrada
    8) Pacquiao
    9) Beterbiev
    10) Warrington
     
  2. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Brook was a big Welter. I don't think he was weight drained to the extent people claim. He blew up in between fights. I will agree he did get pummled the fight before and was still feeling the affects in the Spence fight.
     
  3. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Loma straight ducking Haney,
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Does this have relevance?
     
  5. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Spence is avarage as **** and in my eyes don't deserve to be anywhere near top ten even tho I don't know Crawford he unified three weight devisions
     
  6. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Crawford cleaned out 135 and 140 and is generally considered the best fighter at 147

    Spence beat 2 great fighters in Porter and Mikey Garcia. He's about to take on another top 147er.
     
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  7. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And he ****ing lost twice to GGG, once to mayweather, once to Lara and arguably against Jacobs. Chisora has also got the best resume at HW, because he stepped in with the best, he should be in p4p top 10 by that logic
     
  8. Salspan1c

    Salspan1c New Member Full Member

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    He’s both blacker and slicker than Spence so that puts him higher up on the proverbial “next Mayweather” list. But seriously. Think: Crawford is Leonard. Spence is Hearns. So naturally a lot of causals prefer the flashier guy. As does much of the boxing establishment...cause money.

    Personally I think it’s nuts that a guy with as thin a resume as Crawford is rated over Spence, a guy who’s beaten several top guys his own damn size at or near their primes
     
  9. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why even talk about Bellew? Bellew barely cracks Usyks top 5 best wins.
     
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  10. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    There's biasedness that we all have, then there's just stupidity, nobody has Crawford no1 or Canelo, neither of them two have met Usyk's prime opposition
     
  11. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Because nobody in this generation has dared to be great and standards are at an all time low?
     
  12. PunchersChance.

    PunchersChance. Active Member banned Full Member

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    Plenty of people have them number 1. Canelos opposition has been levels above Usyks, not even comparable. Usyk struggles against solid but unspectacular guys like Breidis, Crawford just dominates that level of fighter eg Postol.

    P.s why are you pretending to be Somalian, that’s pretty weird bro.
     
  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1, Usyk hardly struggled. He easily won 8 rounds.
    2, Briedis > Postol
     
  14. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    Don't call me Bro, we aint brothers. Breidis is the same as Postol yeah lol..Im from Somalia, ive been working off shore in the UK on and off for 15 yrs
     
  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    All roads lead to Canelo. Anytime I look at anybody's analysis or criteria of P4P or what they emphasize when debating with others about others... Canelo is always King it's just what it is. Folks make laughable hypocrites of themselves about this one boxer. Can't watch the fights then look at em all on paper and say anything else, in my honest opinion. And that is my honest opinion of others' opinions, regardless of what I think of the fighters at hand myself.