Fury almost done?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by SeanK, Oct 31, 2019.


  1. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Who says Chisora was prime back then?

    You?
    I say he is prime now and history agrees with me

    besides, undefeated records mean jack and **** without any context on who they fought
     
  2. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    you got up too early.
     
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  3. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    And you got up....
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Don't get all hurt because it wasn't Whyte beating a prime version and struggling to beat a faded version.

    Yes it is me saying it as it was before anyone had managed to beat chisora. Before he was beaten by helenius, before vitali outboxed him and before haye kod him.
    The second time was when chisora was on a good run winning the European title.

    You say he is prime now after those losses, that much more ring worn, having also lost to pulev.

    Remember that chisora was favoured by many against Fury in the return also because he was near prime but I doubt many would favour him today.

    Why... Because he is passed his prime at 35 with so many tough fights where he had taken a beating even when he has won.

    No history agrees with you dummy. Or does it because you said it rather than ignoring the facts above.

    I am a big fan of chisora and Whyte. 2 of my favourite hws but chisora was not without several defeats where some felt he was passed it before he first fought Whyte.
    Fact
     
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  5. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Then how did prime 6 foot 6
    joshua go distance with Takam

    when faded old man 6’2 chisora KOd him with his signature punch?
    The same one he KOd spilka with and price?

    mHmmmm

    “prime”

    yeah you are an idiot in his prime
     
  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Tough fights mould a man into a diamond

    Bum fights mould a man into a clown

    Guess what Fury is now
     
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  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I was going to ask if you really are that stupid but you have confirmed that you are far more stupid than first thought.
    With your logic it is like saying foreman was prime because he kod Moorer.
    Yes dummy. That is your logic.

    I thought you would know that all fights are different and results can vary between fights.
    With your logic, how come whyte didn't stop chisora the first time they fought and looked fortunate to many? Its not because any fight can vary is it... lol
     
  8. Aydamn

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    Right, I have no idea what you are babbling about but put simply AJ and Chisora had the same challenge placed infront of them - Carlos Takam.

    The older, smaller man KOd the challenge

    The other went the distance pretty much.

    Both came to fight with no injuries.
     
  9. SeanK

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    really? I didn’t hear about going twice more with Wilder. That’s interesting, but IMO a little useless. I think after one more fight there won’t be anything left for either of them to prove against each other
     
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  10. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    F.Y.I. Fury earned 15 millions with Strawman. Call him a fool!
     
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  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Then you really are thick if you don't understand what was written.
    I have already said to you that all fights are different, which I thought you would know or in truth should very much know.
    I will give you another example.
    Hopkins was knocked down a few times when he fought Pascal but in the rematch was never knocked down.
    So do you think Pascal had suddenly regressed from the last fight or accept that all fights can be different with different outcomes and scenarios!

    I use your logic again and pointed to foreman koing moorer whereas moorer had just beaten holyfield.
    So with your logic you would be saying foreman could be prime and holyfield wasn't able to ko moorer yet had the same challenge and didn't score a ko.
    You really that stupid?


    Here's what we are disputing
    I think chisora is passed prime after many tough fights including losses to Fury, to vital, to helenius, to haye, to Fury again and to pulev, a tough fight where he didn't get the decision against Whyte, a loss to kabayel.
    Yet you say you think chisora is prime now at 35 with over 40 fights where many were tough, which I think is based on you being a fan of Whyte.
    Whereas i think chisora has passed his prime before having had do many tough fights.
    I really think you would struggle to argue that and trying to use a fight result where I have shown you how foreman wasn't prime but scored a good win, destroys your arguments with ease
     
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  12. Aydamn

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    I think if Chisora fights and beats parker, you will be confirmed as the biggest idiot in the universe.

    As parker is young and prime.

    Anyways, I don't really care - we ain't going to agree.. so whatever? Believe what you want. You know where the prediction threads are. I'll see you there sometime.
     
  13. vast

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    Fury is very talented for a fighter his size. I have never in 55 years seen someone that big with reflexes like he has.

    That being said, his venture into WWE and possible MMA signal that he won't be boxing too much longer.

    To cement a legacy he needs to:

    1) Rematch Wilder (given he beats Ortiz)
    2) Fight the winner of Joshua-Ruiz
    3) Beat the top up and coming HW - whoever that is

    People like to trash the guy but he hangs in there and fights. That cut in his last fight was terrible yet he fought through it.

    Getting up in the 12th against Wilder and then backing him up was the stuff of legend.

    I was never a fan of Fury, but he showed a hell of a lot recently during times of real duress.

    Give credit where credit is due.
     
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  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    why does it twat?
    Winning a fight doesn't make someone prime.
    You not understanding that is an issue right there.
    Once again does foreman koing moorer make him prime?
    Do answer

    What has a prediction of that fight got to do with chisora being prime or not? Nothing at all.
    I am yet to decide who I think would win between chisora and Parker. I would be rooting for chisora as a fan but regardless of the result, it wouldn't mean chisora is prime or me think he is not passed his prime. Completely different things.
    Once again look at the foreman/moorer example and the win moorer was coming off

    So once again your logic... See the examples I gave you with Hopkins/Pascal and moorer/foreman and work it out for yourself