If Canelo wins he is #1 of his era NO QUESTION

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  1. BCS8

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    Except, of course:

    "Amir “King” Khan (31-4, 19 KOs) says that former WBC middleweight champion Saul “Canelo” Alvarez (47-1-1, 33 KOs) was 187 pounds on the night that they fought"

    https://www.boxingnews24.com/2016/07/khan-canelo-weighed-187-fought/
     
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    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Amir Khan "says" and you take that at face value. A boxer says something so it must be true. Khan wouldn't fight Canlo at 160, that we know, he would only fight him at a 155 lb catchweight.

    Please answer this question : Who did the 155 lb catchweight benefit : Canelo or Khan?
     
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    For the issues why Canelo can't be regarding as #1 of the era

    1. He always has home town advantage + Judge advantage.
    2. His career is planned out to only fight the "elite" once they have aged or been on a downward trajectory.
    3.To be #1, you have to dominate. Canelo has had far too many "controversial" scorecards to "dominate".
    4. Being busted with PED's in your system in most sports, takes you out of any ATG rankings.
    5. Adding specific clauses to ensure that you control your disadvantages shows weakness in his game.
    6. Ducking specific fights due to fighters in there prime hinders a resume.

    I cannot think of another fighter in the past decade with all the chips in his corner, not because of skill, but because of promotion/fan base.

    Just remember all of Loma's/Usyk's wins come in a country away from home and being fast tracked in the Pro's to make up for time dominating the amateur scene. Its far far harder to pick up good promotion being from Easter Europe, but the USA/Mexico residents can't understand that.
     
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    :risas3::risas3::risas3:

    EVERYBODY KNOWS 155lb is CANELOWEIGHT!!!

    GTFO of here, Clenboy tried to pull that **** with GGG as well except for that GGG told him to get lost.

    Of course Canelo couldn't fight Khan at 160, and he would have, because that would have shown that his "too small to be a MW" bull**** to be just that.

    155 absolutely benefitted Canelo, because Khan wanted a lighter catchweight since he's roughly the size of a microbe.
     
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    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL You're becoming more of a clown every day. Literally agruing that fighting Khan at 155 benefitted Canelo LMAO GTFOH. Are you high? GGG on the other hand refused to fight Brook at a catchweight. GGG refused to make the same weight sacrifices to Brook that Canelo did to Khan, and yet somehow Canelo's the weight bully lol.
     
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    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i want to see someone refute this logic... successfully.
     
  7. BCS8

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    Of course it benefitted Canelo.

    It supported Canelo's narrative that he was too small for 160.

    155 was also a higher weight than Khan wanted to fight at.

    But, you will soon prove me wrong when you supply a quote by Khan demanding the 155 weight.

    Go for it.

    Fetch.
     
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    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    His best win is a SD* over a guy a lot of u all called a bumlovkin IN HIS PRIME.. Let alone the aged out one.. he's also amplified with PEDS.. I mean what, he needed PEDS for MW but he doesn't need them at 175?! The guys jacked to high heaven.. Beating mostly a run of men on the wrong side of 35 with the cards stacked.. nah, no other guy in boxing gets away with what he does..
     
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    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's true, but it's also 5 lbs lower than the MW limit, 5 lbs lower than the weight GGG Brook was. Those 5 lbs helped Khan restrict Canelo, making it more fair to Khan.

    The 153 demand was Khan's first request, similar to how Floyd first requested Canelo agree to a 150 catchweight, then Canelo said no that's too low then Floyd agreed to 152. Only difference is that 153 is in a different weight classes to 155 and Khan was coming up in weight and had never fought that high in weight before, wasn't a champ in that division, etc.
     
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    I mean, look at this. It explains all his problems, anger issues etc...:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Csimzr2WcAAREG7.jpg
     
  11. BCS8

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    :)

    So no 153 for Khan, but Kovalev has to be sucked dry?

    Gotcha ;)
     
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    There's no catchweight for Canelo Kovalev.
     
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    There's a rehydration limit, ya dumbshyte
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A catchweight is different than a rehydration limit brainiac. Rehydration limits don't drain fighters, catchweights do. You arguing that Kovalev is being "sucked dry" by a rehydration limit when he typically doesn't even rehydrate that much to begin with is astounding.
     
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    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    No! Question!