Sergey Kovalev - light heavyweight all time placement?

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  1. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Where would you rate him? Top 10? Top 20? Top 30? Somewhere else?
     
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  2. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    LHW is an extremely strong division. I wouldn't be surprised or angered to see him outside 20 at all.

    Waiting for others views.
     
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  3. McGrain

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    High forties, low thirties.
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

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    Possibly 20 at best, I gave him around that area. H2H he's much better than that, possibly top 15, he's a real ***** for a lot of great fighters.
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    I'd favour prime Kovalev over everyone coloured in red and 50-50s with names in yellow.
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

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    Thirties maybe.
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I'm too sure of these, I'm not criticizing, just asking why. So Why? Imo there isn't 30 better than him.
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    There is a lot of great light heavyweights. That was off the top of my head. Some of the strong era's featured some very very fine fighters picking up losses and struggling to win titles.

    Does he rate above guys like Galindez, Marshall, Conn, Conteh and Qawi?
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I have him above 2 of them.
     
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    And that's where the debate kicks in. Remember most lists aren't H2H too.
     
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  10. George Crowcroft

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    I think résumé and consistency put him above Conteh and Galindez, although I'd pick him to beat all of them but Qawi
     
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  11. BCS8

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    The question really is, are you rating him H2H or career? H2H prime Kovalev really was all that. But lack of focus and drinking make his career underwhelming when considering how good he was prime.
     
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  12. McGrain

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    I'm not sure how to respond to this.

    I'm not sure how many are better, but obviously I think there are 34-40 who are greater.
     
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  13. George Crowcroft

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    I was basically asking can you show me and/or reason why you think some many guys are greater than him.
     
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  14. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    You think Kovalev would beat Conn???????????
     
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  15. George Crowcroft

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    Yes.
     
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