Who's the greatest journeyman of all time?

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  1. BrutalForeman

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    He is also a good man. I remember seeing him fight a guy who was obviously having a neurological problem, and Augustus refused to hit him in the head!
     
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    Raul 'Lobito' Montoya - what I always remember about him is that you needed a baseball bat to do any damage on this guy. He actually started off as a contender, beating Clemente Sanchez, Frankie Crawford, Eddie Linder, Delfino Rosales and Ray Adigun before settling in as a sought after journeyman. He went the distance with Esteban deJesus, Alfonso Frazer, Ruben Navarro, Hector Thompson, Ray lampkin, Ray Lunny, Jimmy Heair, Monroe Brooks and Randy Shields without ever getting a dent in him, but testing his more noteworthy opponent in their backyards.
     
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    "Sucre"Ray Olivera. The best fighter (to my knowlege) ever to come out my semi-adoptive home town of New Bedford MA. I wrote an article about it. https://imgur.com/gallery/WvtUqIp
     
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    I like the shoutout to Ross the Boss. He's really more of a contender type than journeyman ... a high class journeyman if you will. Always looked at that guy and thought if he'd had an amateur career, a good trainer and a bit of time to develop, what might have been.
     
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    Jose Gonzalez anyone?
    Career circa 1958-1972?
    His record? Something like 42-20.
    Started at Welter, ended as a Light Heavy.
    Look at some of his wins!!
    Look at some of his tough losses!!
    He fought a c r a p load of Champions/contenders across three weight divisions!
    Look him up!
    Don't think there's a lot of video of him.
     
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    Everett big foot martin .
     
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    Impossible to say flatly,,,LeRoy Caldwell, Freddie Pendleton, Scrapiron Johnson,,Bennie Briscoe who was a better than journeyman. Ross Purity, I actually never thought too highly of Mickey Ward, except for his guts.
     
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    what was that fighters name from the 1980s who had over 200 or more fights? I forget his name. Let me look him up..
     
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    ok I was wrong about the 200 fights. I found a guy by the named of Jerry Strickland
     
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    Marion Wilson without a doubt is the greatest journeyman of all time. He had an diamond chin, fought a great amount of champions, was never a contender but did beat all low skill fighters as well as resisting to every champion, contender and gatekeeper he faced.
     
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    To me, the term "journeyman" means any experienced fighter well schooled in the art of boxing. With that in mind, I offer Archie Moore as the prime candidate for this category.
     
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    Jesse Ferguson was better than Ezra.

    A trio of heavyweights I’d throw out, maybe not GOAT (and how do we definite that? If you earned a title shot and especially if you won a title, can you still be a journeyman?) but:

    Leroy Caldwell

    Roy “Cookie” Wallace

    Memphis Al Jones
     
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