Deontay Leshun Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II

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Bronze Bomber or King Kong?

Poll closed Nov 23, 2019.
  1. Wilder on points

    1.1%
  2. Wilder by stoppage

    82.4%
  3. Draw

    1.1%
  4. Ortiz on points

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  5. Ortiz by stoppage

    15.4%
  1. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Wilder is training like an animal.

    He knows he's as dangerous as he was for the first fight.

    Watch as he carries out underwater training as that's how clean athletes train to gain their edge the right way

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  2. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Wilder stops him, but hope Ortiz pulls the upset.
    WAR Luis "Keanu Reeves' great, great uncle" Ortiz! :ggg
     
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  3. chico g

    chico g What are you staring at Mr Trump?! hahaha! Full Member

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    I think it will end in DQ myself. Deontay will use his superior speed and skills to box circles around the old grandpa. Ortiz will get frustrated, and revert to illegal measures. Wouldn't surprise me if the old chrome starts teeing off on Deontay in the corner with a walking stick. Then it will be the bomb squad to the rescue.
     
  4. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    Do Ortiz's legs still even work anymore? Could have swore I saw rank journeyman Kauffman run rings around him for 10 rounds 2 fights ago and punching bag Hammer land more leather on him in his last fight than every other of his whole career. Still, Ortiz is dangerous for a boxer with the skills of gumby. Ortiz to play possum and lure Wilder in, KOs him mid rounds.
     
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  5. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    He is old, slowing down, did I mention old?

    Boring career, hardly beat anyone of note. Laboured a win with Hammer and Kauffman... I guarantee... I GUARANTEEE YOU.

    I bet you right now.

    If Whyte fought Hammer or Kaufmann in December, Whyte would whoop that ass EASY.

    Did I mention Ortiz is old???? Older than Wilder, who is older than Whyte.

    He ain't prime or fresh. LOW RISK.
     
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  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Grandad Kong gets ironed out again, likely faster than last time.

    He lost his composure completely in the first fight when he was getting tagged. He wanted to cruise to a stoppage the Cuban way, by picking Wilder apart.

    Deontay will just fire faster this time because he knows he will win on the exchanges as grandad kong is too old and slow.

    Besides.... Wilder soaked up EVERYTHING Ortiz could muster in the last fight. Took it like a champ, props to Wilder... I maybe hate him ....but the fake WBC champ has got a chin.
     
  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    If Wilder was an animal he would be a chicken.
     
  8. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Boring career due to the fact most of the top heavyweights avoided him.

    He's old but that didn't stop Dillian Whyte cherry picking to fight washed up sub fighters like Ian Iewison and the medicated clinically obese 38 year old Lucas Brown.

    The best part is he still needed his drugs beat them.
     
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  9. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Lucas Browne was undefeated, and a former WBA Regular champ.

    Ian Lewison was for the british title, and early in his career, actually very very early considering he didn't have 1000000000000000000000 amateur fights like ortiz.

    Give the guy a break? Show some intelligence.

    Anyways.... my offer stands... I BET YOU, that Whyte would handle Hammer or Kauffman easy if they met in December, lets make some noise and get the fight done? He wouldn't go distance, he would beat them down viciously... and you know it deep down inside.

    Keep blabbering. Whyte > Wilder > Ortiz

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  10. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    It's amazing to see you how you effortlessly make a fool yourself

    Do you enjoy being ridiculed and mocked for being stupid?

    Whyte fought Lewison back in 2016, 3 years ago.

    Whyte's career began in 2011.

    Now do I need to explain to you what "early" means so you use the word in its correct context?

    As for Lucas Brown his own promoter is on record admitting Lucas was in absolutely no fit state to fight physically and mentally due to the different psychotropic medication he was on and emphasized that the fight should never have been sanctioned

    Whyte took steroids to beat down on an old and clinical obese psychiatric patient
     
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  11. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I could see Ortiz going the full 12 here this time even if hasn't looked good since I have to assume he gets himself up for this one ..

    I could also see a controversial decision where the fight looks a little closer this time but we all saw the laughable scorecards last time, so…...Wilder will play a safety first fight while tagging Ortiz a lot and keeping away just enough to know that he won the rounds even if he didn't the judges aren't going to awarding Ortiz any close rounds for at least 2 judges ,I could see one judge playing ball and actually scoring it right to avoid conspiracy theories. .

    Wilder SD win which again raises questions on his fights if this happens .
     
  12. Fuzzykat

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    It's an intriguing fight because Ortiz has better tools that allowed him to nearly stop Wilder the first time. You get the feeling that maybe he could start well again and maybe finish Wilder this time. However, I think that once Ortiz feels Wilder's power, he's going to look his age. Wilder by KO.
     
  13. smiffyinoz

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    Pointless fight, Ortiz is pushing 50.
     
  14. Simon Head

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    I think at the time Brown was a good win, he had previously been in the top ten, and was undefeated. It’s the same as I thought Ortiz was a good win, but not now, not either of them for a rematch.

    Wilder is doing a hell of a lot better with opponents these days. Since he fought Ortiz his opponents have been respectable. If Wilder fights Fury next it is a great run of opponents.

    I would of preferred another top fighter to Ortiz, just for the fact that we have seen the fight before, yes Ortiz gave a good account of himself, but nobody wants to see the rematch after the first fight. It was that decisive.
     
  15. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    The man had been out of the ring for 2 years. His own promoter was disgusted with the condition he turned up to train in.

    Had his promoter known he was on medication he would not have let him fight Dillian Whyte since he was in no condition to compete.

    Listen to the disgust from his promter and then come back and tell me you would be proud beating a mentally ill overweight man that hasn;t boxed in 2 years.

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    You can't compare that to Ortiz who is actually a world class boxer who has been boxing his entire life. Lucas Browne only took up boxing at 33 years of age after leaving MMA.

    Do you think if Lucas Browne was Joshua's mandatory, Joshua would stall on that fight and look for ways out.

    His handler Eddie Hearn knew full well Ortiz was capable of knocking his golden goose into the next century with his awkward southpaw style and devastating power. The man hits harder than Ruiz and is far more intelligent ring IQ than Joshua and Dillian Whyte.

    He'd have destroyed both of them at the time he was ordered to fight them those cowards