How Canelo was too green for Floyd?

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  1. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A 'name' doesn't give you experience. A fighter who can test you gives you experience.
     
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  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    No, Canelo isn't a renowned pressure fighter. But there's no way this current version of him would have stood off of him like he did back in 2013. There wouldn't be a chance of that happening. There were many times when Floyd backed into the corners, yet Canelo didn't go anywhere near him.

    Oscar De La Hoya was a great boxer and he wasn't a pressure fighter either. But if you watched his fight with Floyd, he pressured him and followed him to the ropes. And Floyd was forced to cover up. And when he did, Oscar unloaded on him. And those actions showed that he was the aggressor, and they grabbed the attention of the judges even when many of the shots were blocked and didn't get through. Those actions bank you the rounds. And they also make it uncomfortable for your opponent. Although Canelo doesn't fight like a guy like Maidana, he'd have made the fight more competitive if he'd have engaged Floyd more and not shown him as much respect. Yes, he was facing a true ATG in Floyd, but to me, he just looked completely overawed by the occasion.
     
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  3. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    I disagree, each fight u gain some type of experience dealing with different styles. Experience counts when ur learning something different and new. So when i say names, i also mean experienced fighters.
     
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    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sure, to an extent, can agree with this.
     
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    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He wasn't Green. Floyd was just too good.
     
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  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Amazing how people can interpret the same match so differently, but it's really no surprise considering how in denial people are about the GGG fights and how people almost instinctively make excuses for his opponents every time Canelo impresses. Floyd looked extremely nervouse and twitchy early on vs Canelo. Canelo was very patient, took his time, waited for openings. It was a chess match. Floyd eventually made some adjustments and did enough to win but to say Canelo was overawed by the occasion, I honestly don't know what fight you were watching.

    I think a lot of it surely had to do with the pro-Mayweather commentary and Canelo not being as big of a name as Floyd at that time. Luckily the judges weren't swayed by all that spin and saw the bout as the close chess match it was.
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    As you know, I always respect your opinion and enjoy reading your passionate and detailed posts. But I don't agree that Floyd did enough to win. I think he won comfortably. And yes, it was a chess match at times. But Canelo waited too much. There were times in that fight when Floyd was in the corners and on the ropes, yet Canelo just waited. Yet when Oscar fought Floyd, he didn't wait. He pressured him at every opportunity. And I think that if today's version of Canelo had fought Floyd, he would have pressured him much more than what he did. So yes, I think he was overawed. I think he showed Floyd too much respect. To me, he looked terrified of getting countered.
     
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  8. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    FLOYD kicked the everloving snot out of a prime Canelo. That's a fact.

    42-0, undefeated, 8 years into his career.
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You wouldn't really call Devin Hanley green but he's far greener than Canelo was. Doesn't have the experience Canelo had either.

    Greener's are essentially prospects , like Otha Jones or Daniel Dubois
     
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  10. Henry Hank

    Henry Hank Mexicans Run Houston Full Member

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    No you clown only you Isal,Divac and some inept judges had this fight close. This was a schooling of the highest order Floyd completelly undressed that ped cheater and made him look like the overrated chump he is.

    The judge who had this fight a draw was probably hit by one of those desperate clenelo punches that missed the target by so much that he almost fell off the ring.
     
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  11. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Canelo is not a cruiserweight and he didn't fight Floyd at 147
     
  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A fact?

    The facts are :

    1) Floyd won a majority decision by the scores of 8-4, 9-3, 6-6.
    2) After the fight, Canelo was not marked up, so he showed no visible signs of having the "snot beat out of him" lol.
    3) Floyd flinched about 35 times from Canelo feints, a record number of flinches in a prize fight.
    4) The fans booed Floyd for blatant stalling techniques in the 12th and final round, a tell tale sign of a fighter afraid to engage with his opponent.
    5) Canelo won more rounds vs Mayweather than any fighter had since DLH, a feat only equalled by Maidana a year later vs a more faded version of Floyd.
    6) Floyd refused to fight Canelo at the normal 154 lb limit, a weight class that Mayweather was a Champion in and won it at that weight.
    7) Floyd refused to grant Canelo a rematch despite the bout being his highest grossing match of his career at that time.
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You mean the same Oscar who unloaded hitting air expending energy, who got countered and almost dropped when PBF was against the ropes? 1:45 of this video
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    That Oscar? You keep talking about what Canelo won't do or won't allow but you don't talk enough about what PBF will do. You must remember that version of PBF wasn't prime, the last prime PBF fight was 2009 against JMM. A prime PBF would show a **** more movement against this so called more confident Canelo. With his reach and his ability to hit and not get hit he would still outbox Canelo at range and frustrate him to a UD win he might not beat him as bad as he did in 2013 but he would still beat him.
     
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    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    hes not content in keeping his ignorance a secret. hes gonna shove it in your face.
     
  15. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fact: Canelo got owned like a 50 euro crack whоre in Amsterdam's red light district.