Usyk says American fighters move their head but not there legs, Is he right?

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  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    once again, were stuck at your level of understanding.
     
  2. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It’s quite rare to have the complete package anyway imo re of where you come from.
    Ali,Robinson,Leonard,Jones And Mayweather are all time greats.Most fighters have to make do with what they’ve got.
     
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  3. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    So where are all the ee and Cuban champions? Don't really see much ee dominance outside of a few thin divisions.
     
  4. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    Usyk, Gvozdyk, Loma etc etc etc
     
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  5. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    The last 10 years has seen a rise in dominance from EE countries, they've owned divisions for years now, the few thin divisions ? Heavyweight, cruiserweight, Light heavyweight, middleweight, Lomaweight, they've all been dominated by EE fighters, the best fighter in each division was EE, the most dominant champs it seems.
     
  6. ertwin

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    Amateur boxing is EE period.

    In hw we had a 10 year reign of wk and vk.
    Cw is ruled by ee for 15 years. Lebedev, drozd, wlodarcyk and now Usyk and the rest.
    EVERY title in lwh is in the hands of russians and we had a dominant 5 year reign of an russian who would have been the undisputed champ if the remaining world champion didnt duck him for years.
    Super middle weight was not that noticeable.
    In middle weight we had ggg beeing the dominant force for more then 10 years that is coming closer and closer to its end.
    in the lower weight classes there is only have loma.

    the other weight classes are all filled with mexican.
    Get used to it boxing will be Latin guy vs Ruski for the next couple years.
     
  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    gvosdyk just got stomped by a guy opposite of what usyk is describing, that leaves loma as proof of usyks statement. so usyk making a general statement about his people, that applies to only one other, isnt stupid?
    i stand by my statements, regarding usyks stupid statement.
     
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  8. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Funny because the klits reigned over the worst heavyweight era in history and now that it's got some talent all of the belts are in the hands of 2 Americans. Ggg reigned over another terrible division. Super middle weight and cruiser aren't even worth mentioning they are historically stepping stone divisions. That leaves what? Champions "reigning" over divisions with 15 or less fights on their resumes? Sorry, not impressed at all. Smoke and mirrors
     
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  9. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is the worst period for HW's ever. The top tier is thinner than a wafer crisp...

    Out of curiosity, when exactly is this period you have 3G reigning over? According to most here, he wasn't even the World champ for the most part of his career. Did Sergio reign over this terrible division first? Then Cotto? When did 3G take over exactly according to you?
     
  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    What???? SuperMiddleweight was the 2nd strongest division of the last era. Only Featherweight was stronger.
     
  11. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    And master of accuracy Tony Bellew?
     
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  12. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most divisions middle weight and up. And loma.
     
  13. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk was just holding back in his masterful movements. He's going to save his best for the cream of the heavyweight crop.
     
  14. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Klitschko era > current era.
    Even lots of second tier fighters in Klitschko era have better resumes then any of the current champions except for AJ.
    Ex. Valuev has wins over Ruiz, Mcline, Liakowitch, Barret and Donald.
    Wilder and Fury only have ancient Ortiz and ancient Wlad, Chisora and Stevern.
    Both of them combined have a worse resume then Valuev, who was not even top 5 in Klitschko era.
     
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  15. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is wrong.
    All fighters are different. They eat, sleep, learn, react, train, think different.
    Its absurd to think that certain countries just train pure boxers compared to other countries.
    It comes down to the fighters attributes on how they adapt to their fighting style.