Canelo the Killer by Lee Wylie

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  1. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If it’s not banned then why bother suspending him for six months?Why even bother saying it was taken accidentally?
     
  2. elbonzoseco

    elbonzoseco Member Full Member

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    It wasn't the same sample, two samples a couple of days apart. But the second sample had lower readings than the first, indicating that both findings were the result of one event. Just to clear that up.
     
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    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    you are correct, i was talking out my ass. i will shut up now.
     
  4. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree. In short, he was a cheat and a weight bully.

    As for Brook, he should have moved up years ago instead of hanging around waiting for a Khan fight to happen. Khan never needed him to be honest.

    Brook is someone else I suspect using "substances". Look at him on the scales...he is totally shredded.
     
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  5. IsaL

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    Because it was banned under VADA rules, and the WBC HAD a rule that if you ingest any banned substance, REGARDLESS of how and why, you get an automatic six month ban.

    Why say it was accidental.. Maybe because it was.
     
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  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol just showed how loaded Canelo was.
     
  7. IsaL

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    Actually it supports the claim that it came from tainted beef as Daniel Eichner the lab director suggested.
     
  8. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His Beef must of been saturated in pure Clenbuterol for those levels. It doesn’t make him any less of a fighter Isal.Just means he got caught out mis timed his usual cycle is all.
     
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  9. IsaL

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    What revela are those?
     
  10. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There’s a good article on this and I’ll try and post the link for it.
    The article is about Canelos test and the amount and says the levels are consistent with contaminated meat but those two tests over three days were also consistent with someone caught doping and it impossible to prove either.
    It also mentions the Hair follicle test to be unreliable.
    Doesn’t really matter as even those to be proven of deliberately taking PEDs just get brushed under the carpet as Hauser has just uncovered with Chavez still down to fight Jacobs after testing positive.
    You’re entitled to your opinion and as it can’t be proved either way I’m afraid that’s all we have.
     
  11. elbonzoseco

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    Actually there are two possible explanations. 1. He was cycling off and got caught just before it exited the system 2. He JUST ate that meat at the perfect moment to reach that figure (800ng)

    one is more likely than the other...
     
  12. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Hey bandeedo, heres a film analyst you might like if you haven't seen him. He veers more to MMA, but his boxing vids are fantastic IMO. Here is his recent video on Beterbiev. His channel hasn't caught on yet it seems. He's pretty in depth IMO.

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  13. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    I think this may be the best study on YouTube though.

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  14. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh Really...then why was he given a 6 month ban then ....Dummy!

    being selective in your banned DRUGS don't wash iSAL...you really are struggling toy boy
     
  15. NoNeck

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