Max Baer v Jack Johnson

i would unconfidently pick johnson here, especially after seeing how Ketchel shook him

 

Baer was outboxed by Schaaf, Loughran, Risko and Braddock in his physical prime. Johnson wins easily.

 

Baer was leagues above Firpo.

That's how incredibly sh*tty Firpo was.

 

Johnson by wide decision or late stoppage.

 

Johnson for sure

 

Same basic style. Johnson is gonna read Baer like an open book. Here comes the overhand right.
JJ would have some answers for that.

 

Did he though? If it was a legit KD he sure recovered quick ,koing Ketchel for 12 minutes as soon as he got up!

 

And also beaten on points by Kennedy,and Uzcudun.

 

Not for ring science he wasn't ,Baer telegraphed his over hand right,and was wide open for counters.

 

There are a lot of asterisks next to those. Schaaf, Loughran and Risko were all within a year of killing an opponent.

 

This doesn't wash,the premise that Baer was haunted by the tragedy against Cambell and pulled his punches in his next few fights,,doesn't stand up to close scrutiny.
Why? In between losing to Schaaf and Loughran, he ko'd Tom Heeney,and in between Loughran and Risko ,
he ko'd Owens.
Owens had gone 10rds to a dec a year earlier and Heeney went 10 to a dec a year later.
Two months after losing to Risko, and still less than a year after the Campbell fight he ko'd Van Noy and a month later Santa.
Thanks for prompting me to look that up!"

 

Also something to consider.

 

Not when he was prime he didn't.
It failed to do so for 15 years!

 

For effectiveness, he sure was. Thus, his register of actual ring accomplishments compared to the dubious record of Firpo.