Tyson Fury - Overrated, underrated or somewhere in between?

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  1. Hattonmad

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    AJ/Wallin and Wilder/Wallin would do awful in Vegas, obviously. The opponent 100% matters when you're new to a country. Schwartz and Wallin were fights 1 and 2 in Las Vegas against eurobums. You know all of this, you just get off on bashing Fury.
     
  2. Jurgen

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    What a performance for the full 33 minutes 57 seconds - how can one not like this man?

    Answers on the back of a postage stamp and send to Tony Hayers, Postbox 999, Old Compton Street, London
     
  3. Jurgen

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    Agree but any half decent World Heavyweight Champion would wipe out Baby Blobby mate.
     
  4. Hattonmad

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    Who are these people you speak of? What exactly did they say?

    A lot of people didn't like AJ's humble persona and why would they? It's boring and difficult to listen to.

    However, sky and matchroom done an exceptional job with him. The best promotion ever seen in Britain and fair play to them. They are all bloody minted because of it.
     
  5. Jurgen

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    We all seen through Drug Dealer turned Humble One now known as Humbled One
     
  6. Heisenberg

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    Fury’s single with Robbie Williams is ridiculously catchy and despite being sceptical of every word written, I’m actually enjoying the autobiography for what it is.
     
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  7. Citizen Smith

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    Has Tyson ejected Ben from the passenger seat? I've been seeing John in lots of Tyson's recent stints. He was even sat in the background while Tyson was repeating his mental illness story on This Morning. *Disclaimer - I saw the clip on Youtube, not on telly.

    There were also a couple of comments by Tyson that they hadn't decided where next camp would be and he'd leave it up to Dad. Doesn't the trainer decide those things?
     
  8. Hattonmad

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    It sounds harsh but I'd like to see Davison demoted in the camp. He's done a wonderful job getting Tyson in shape and happy but he hasn't added anything to Tyson's game. In fact, Tyson isn't moving his head as well as he used to, nor is he tying opponents up as well as he once did. I think Tyson appreciates Davison as a friend and a coach but does he trust in Davisons boxing knowledge? Unlikely. Tyson is older and way more experienced in boxing than Davison. Davison deserves to stay on board for fitness and morale and a deserved payday but I'd love to see someone like Peter back in the corner telling Fury how to box. Is gypsy John that man? I've no idea. Sure John can't even get into America AFAIK.
     
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  9. Citizen Smith

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    Maybe that's why Tyson mentioned that John would decide where camp was going to be?

    Is Peter allowed in the US with his drugs conviction? Did that have anything to do with the split?

    "It’s sad that the split had to happen because Mick, Peter and I had a very good bond at one point, but it was a decision that had to be taken."

    So, no reason given, just that a decision had to be taken. If Tyson knew that he would be going to the States, or even wanted to try it over there, then he would have known Peter couldn't go. I believe they take a dim view of drugs convictions regarding visas.
     
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  10. Hattonmad

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    Peter couldn't get into America for the Cunningham fight.

    In regard to that split, it looked to me like both parties just drifted apart. I'm sure Tyson broke Peter's heart when he went off the rails. Peter appears to be a "my way or the highway" type of bloke and Tyson had other ideas with Ben. I guess after Tyson came back with Davison, Peter was hurt and moved on. And that's the end of that.

    I just hope Tyson gets a strong, experienced trainer in for Wilder 2. One heavy shot from Deontay and it could be all over. There'll be no excuses so he needs to get it right.

    Peter is out of the question and John is unproven + unable to go to America. I'd love to see someone like Adam Booth in there. He needs someone who can really maximise the elite head movement and footwork he posesses.
     
  11. notjustacasual

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    Fury won't get a top trainer on board for a Wilder rematch if he actually does take it

    None of them will want to be blamed for the inevitable there.
     
  12. Citizen Smith

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    It does not add up. If John is on board and pulling strings and arranging camps, then Tyson would want him on fight night, not just in camp?
     
  13. notjustacasual

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    Listen, Fury could be his own cornerman and he'd be as well off as he is with Ben the hair model

    The guy gives the most basic corner instructions imaginable and has a ridiculous ego.

    Roach recognised that Wilder was defenceless on the inside and Fury buzzed him there multiple times and had a solid route to victory.

    Davidson advice? Nah don't exploit his weakness just tickle him with 4 jabs around and let him keep swinging at your head for 12 rounds hopefully he won't land, oh oops..... oh phew.
     
  14. Citizen Smith

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    Roach's advice might have been the best all night but we'll never know. Prior to the fight Tyson stated that Roach and Hatton were brought in because they were "warmongers" and in the end it seems they were superfluous, since Roach's advice was ignored and am not sure what Hatton was providing other than a mate who'd been in some battles. Perhaps they were brought in as a crutch for Tyson.
     
  15. Scissors

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    Davison who has done a great job with Fury should be nothing more than a strength and conditioning coach for him.