AJ v Ruiz £25 box office

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  1. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I don’t think there would be a significant decline in sales, but I don’t think there would be a significant increase either. We have to remember that AJ v a fat, late, nobody replacement he was expected to blow away was more popular than Fury v Wilder to a UK audience. He’s still immensely popular.

    But realistically has he won and fought someone like Kownacki in the States again it seems likely that it would have done slightly better but not to the extent the Parker or Klitschko fights did. This will.
     
  2. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    Just received an email from Eh Day Hearn generously giving me a £24.99 PPV discount for this 'fight' along with a voucher for a McDonalds meal and a Mr Blobby Pen.

    @channy check your emails mate as you may have the same given your PPV loyalty over the years watching all fights
     
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  3. Brixton Bomber

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    It's a bout between someone that got stopped embarrassingly and the 3rd best choice, in the dessert.

    Define popular. Because we both know it won't do Wembley numbers...
     
  4. Twentyman

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    If that was true then that would be a dreadful comparison on their part. They know that the 4am Fury fights sold terribly so viewers did not see them as value for money.

    I know why they’ve hiked the prices up, I get it, but people’s frustrations come from the fact that they did not need to put the prices up to make this rematch happen. It’s just pure greed and nothing else.

    From a personal standpoint, this will be one less ppv they sell. I can afford it but i’m choosing not to, it’s the principle because I understand the value of money. I will spend that £25 on booze in the pub and watch the actual fight for free. I hope a few hundred thousand potential buyers now do the same.
     
  5. Brixton Bomber

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    Exactly. It's the principal, not the increase in price that is ruffling feathers here.

    £25-30 for AJ/Wilder? Or AJ/Fury? All. Day. Long. But this? Not a chance.

    It reeks of "cash-out".
     
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  6. TonyHayers

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    By 'Wembley' what do mean? I think it'll do more than Povetkin, less than Klitschko.
     
  7. Erik

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    As long as people keep paying they will keep doing it. Sky and Matchroom are only doing what the punters let them get away with.
     
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  8. TonyHayers

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    They also know that Joshua in a fight with Takam where he was 1/50 to win in what many saw as a total mismatch sold nearly 900k (comfortably more than double Fury Wilder) at £20. Joshua is immensely popular. Immense popularity equates to higher prices.
     
  9. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    Again, I understand why they’re doing it. There’s no justification other than pure greed and being totally out of touch with everyday working people ie almost their entire customer base. The only way it stops is if his ‘popularity’ takes another significant hit. They will then need to bring down the price of their ppv to entice us into investing in their product again imo.
     
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  10. TonyHayers

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    If they were so out of touch with their everyday customer base this would bomb presumably? It won't.

    You've also fallen into the line of thinking which suggests defeat = popularity decline. As I've said time and again, the biggest PPV fights in heavyweight boxing history almost always feature one if not two fighters who have lost. There was a line of thinking on here which suggested a Joshua loss heralds a doomsday scenario where his career is all but over. He then lost, and what do you know. Interest in the rematch seems even bigger. It's likely he'll always be very popular.
     
  11. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    I think your giving AJs casual fan base too much credit
    I think a casual fan will be quite fickle and if he loses again to a visually fat bloke will no longer care about him
     
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  12. TonyHayers

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    'You're.'

    What stops them caring after he's lost to a visually fat bloke already? By the time Tyson fought Lewis he'd been in jail, lost twice to an old Holyfield who'd been beaten by Moorer and Bowe, beaten nobody of note for years and lost more than a decade ago against an essential nobody in the form of Douglas. It was still massive.

    People will be interested in massive punching heavyweights for as long as people have an interest in boxing. Domestically people were still massively interested in Frank Bruno when he rematched Tyson despite having lost on seemingly every occasion he stepped up.

    People are clearly desperate for Joshua/Matchroom to fail, but all evidence suggests they won't.
     
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  13. channy

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    You jammy tawt you got a Mr Blobby Pen, all I got was a spice girls calendar and a just eat voucher!!
     
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  14. KingKO

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    This is very much true.

    You only have to look at the likes of Whyte, Chisora and Price who have gone on to be bigger 'stars' on the back of losses.

    I think Joshua's vulnerability will placate all fans, even the casuals who thought he was invincible and he'll continue to rack up PPV sales but selling out Wembley won't be as easy after a few losses unless it's against Wilder or Fury.

    Everyone loves the drama of the heavyweights.
     
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  15. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    You're.'

    Really?
     
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