Who could beat Mike Tyson in his prime?

Dempsey was faster than Tyson? Where does this even come from? Because he looked quick in relief to a plodding stiff rodeo rider who was half-retired from the ring?

Tougher? A shot Tyson kept getting hammered by a 6-5, 250 pound monster puncher looking for his window. He took a brutal beating in a vain cause. I guess that Dempsey lasting 12 rounds lowblowing Tommy Gibbons is about the equivalent.

And Marciano ain't weathering sh*t.

 

( In Order)

#1 George Foreman: Watch the 1st Frazier fight. Foreman's strength would not allow Tyson to get on track prime vs prime.
#2 Sonny Liston: Another immensely strong individual, not as strong as Foreman however far better skills. And who's the bigger bully, that guy snatching old ladies purses or the guy ready to fight an entire police dept... While Being Black in the late 50's early 60's.
# Ali. Tyson had issues early with Biggs movement and jab before he got on track, same with a very old Holmes. Now imagine prime Ali in those spots. Boxing lesson. Also Ali being the master of psychological warfare I believe unlike Frazier who got angry and fought harder than he fought his entire life. I believe Ali beats Tyson well before they enter the ring.
Those are my 3 best bets.
But Frazier's if he gets out of the early rds
Holmes if he stays focused. Esp in a 15rd fight.
L.Lewis but he would need to fight the perfect fight.
Holyfield. Tough as nails , but had the physical toughness, skills , and most importantly will.
Bowe. Another tough as nails , with skills and great size ( unlike Holyfield)and mental make up.... If he is in great shape.
Tyson had the skills to beat everyone I listed. But mentally, how would he do when the fire is coming back at him consistently and with bad intentions? What he showed us is not very well.

 

What has happened to this forum......

 

Foreman
Ali
Holmes
Lewis
Holyfield
W Klitschko

Ibeabuchi might've been able to pull it off also

 

Yes Dempsey is slightly faster than Tyson, watch the film. He's also a better infighter if you actually watch the damn film.

Giants and great punching Giants at that have also landed on Dempsey. Douglas wasn't a crazy puncher but he did the trick. Lennox admitted he was holding back on Tyson, though he changes the story on whether it was out of pity to because he wanted to make Tyson suffer. It's clear that Lennox isn't trying to finish Tyson right away. Tyson got shook by Holyfield counters as well. You may bring up Firpo but if Firpo had one thing it was power, the record is there to show that. Dempsey was only stopped once in his career, and that was a dive because he hadn't eaten in 2 days. Tyson was stopped 5 times, and Dempsey faced some mean and big punchers.

I'll say it again, Marciano was as tough as they came. His power was about equal to Tyson's as well, he could hold his own in those early rounds and see himself to the mid rounds, where Tyson would begin to falter.

 

Tyson would destroy Dempsey and Marciano but lose to Louis and Ali

 

Dempsey is a fine infighter. I have no problem with that. Unfortunately, this match wouldn't be decided there. And he is not in the same league in regards to hand, foot or lateral speed as Tyson. You are creating that from whole cloth.

Which giants might these be? An ancient Willard who was out of it in the first round? Firpo who was decidedly average in size compared to Tyson's opponents.

Who were these giant punchers? Carpentier shook him to his heels. Is that the guy? Who did Firpo stop exactly? Don't recite the Rickard ballyhoo. Tell me this great quality opponent.

I'm sure he was tough. He would have done great in the grueling shoe factory. He got stung early. Tyson blows him out in the first. I have almost zero doubt of this.

 

Ok the premise is “could”
Ali
Foreman
Holmes
Lewis
Holyfield
Marciano
Frazier
Liston
Louis
Doesn’t mean I think all of them are going to win just that they “could”. Possibly klitchkos but I don’t think so. For the record Tyson “could” win most of them as well.

 

Fulton, Morris, Firpo

He also faced other good punchers like Ko Brennan

Brennan, but look at the record. 25-2 with 21KOs. And he knocked Dempsey out of the ring. The man had a good arm

Marciano is Tyson's equal in power and superior in chin, mental toughness and endurance. Nobody is capable of blowing Marciano out in the first round. He didn't feel pain like other human beings. His chin is top end for any era

 

Dempsey faster than Tyson?

Ok... you keep on believing that, sir.

 

I see.

The Tyson hate on Classic makes many delusional.

Tyson would make extremely short work of Tunney, and Charles.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is dreaming.

Sam Lanford? LOL.

I won't even touch that one.

Even the shot Tyson would slaughter tiny ass, crude Sam Langford.

Let's just go all out delusional and add Jack Johnson.

Cause ya know, boxing didn't evolve at all since Johnson's era...

 

These are giants?

Fulton was Dempsey's best victory, a real comer at the time before his china-mandible was exposed.

Morris was so unreliable by the time Dempsey met him in New Orleans that the majority of the betting was on if he would even show up.

Firpo is a hot mess of a fighter... No real trainer, very little real training and he KO'd a bunch of set ups and no-hopers to be built into the exotic hype.

That was at the tail, burned out end of Brennan's career. A dying man KO'd BIll next, and much quicker, than Firpo managed.

And he pushed Dempsey out of the ring.

No and no and no. Marciano's power is not equal, nor is his chin, nor is his toughness necessarily. Look no further than the furnace Tyson marched thru against the hellacious punching Ruddock. Marciano was decked by small geriatrics with their wheels falling off.

And yes, Tyson is more than capable of blowing him out in the first. Not only is he capable, that is the very highest probability of outcomes. Moore flattened him in the 2nd, Walcott in the 1st, both as geriatrics. A young, lightening fast, fast starter in Tyson would complete the task in under 180 seconds.

 

This is at least a respectable list, even if I disagree with it. It's a list to be taken seriously.

Lists that have Gene Tunney and Ezzard Charles on it should be written off.

There's no light heavyweight in history who's beating a prime Tyson