Deontay Leshun Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II & Léodegario Santa Cruz vs. Miguel Flores RBR

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  1. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Round 1. Santa Cruz 10-9
    Round 2. Santa Cruz 10-9
    Round 3. Santa Cruz 10-9
    Round 4. Santa Cruz 10-9
    Round 5. Santa Cruz 10-9 close
    Round 6. Santa Cruz 10-9
     
    Inglis_1, Nov 23, 2019
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Ah. Okay, so part of the issue here is that you just don't actually know how to read betting odds for boxing. Santa Cruz being -5000 =/= Flores himself being a +5000 underdog. That isn't how that works.

    In the screenshot you've posted, on that website, Flores is a 13-to-1 underdog.
     
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  3. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know how to read odds
    I bet all the time
    I said that Leo was 50-1 favorite
     
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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Round 6

    Santa Cruz is...doing his thing. Applying pressure, some jabs, some body shots. Flores running and occasionally leaping in to flurry. Nothing else to report. Fairly boring.

    10-9 Santa Cruz

    59-55 Santa Cruz
     
    IntentionalButt, Nov 23, 2019
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  5. iamtheman

    iamtheman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    charlie z did it for free
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Ah, sorry - was conflating what you said with the commentator who keeps repeating that Flores was a "40 to 1" underdog ...which AFAIK isn't true, anywhere.
     
    IntentionalButt, Nov 23, 2019
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  7. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    He literally just keeps moving forward with high guard and throws punches with little technique, doesn't even have power. And he keeps getting gifted these fake titles one after another. Surely at his heart he must be aware that he is not a real champion, not even close.
     
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  8. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Round 1. Santa Cruz 10-9
    Round 2. Santa Cruz 10-9
    Round 3. Santa Cruz 10-9
    Round 4. Santa Cruz 10-9
    Round 5. Santa Cruz 10-9 close
    Round 6. Santa Cruz 10-9
    Round 7. Santa Cruz 10-9 close
     
    Inglis_1, Nov 23, 2019
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  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Egad. :oops: The farm, though? On a not-exactly through-and-through proven commodity in B-Fig?
     
    IntentionalButt, Nov 23, 2019
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  10. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not the farm haha just my winnings. Ceja has been sparked in rounds 1 and 4 by guys not even on Figs level. All the handicappers I follow that predict fights had Fig winning by KO somewhere in 12.

    Rough sledding my friend.
     
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  11. IntentionalButt

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    Round 7

    Santa Cruz is still being LSC, in second gear. Flores unable to neutralize that, holding a lot now. Yawn.

    10-9 Santa Cruz

    69-64
     
    IntentionalButt, Nov 23, 2019
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  12. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Round 1. Santa Cruz 10-9
    Round 2. Santa Cruz 10-9
    Round 3. Santa Cruz 10-9
    Round 4. Santa Cruz 10-9
    Round 5. Santa Cruz 10-9 close
    Round 6. Santa Cruz 10-9
    Round 7. Santa Cruz 10-9 close
    Round 8. Santa Cruz 10-8
     
    Inglis_1, Nov 23, 2019
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  13. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member

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    This match is just a waste of time. Its a mismatch om paper and the actual fight its boring as hell. Flores moving to make it 12 rnds and LS content to just chase and tag.
     
    lobk, Nov 23, 2019
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  14. IntentionalButt

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    Round 8

    Santa Cruz is starting to mix in some overhand rights on the way in, effective, but Flores is literally snaking his arm over Santa Cruz's, then sinuously working it up so until they are fully ensnared, tying him up in knots. Thankfully, despite having not issued warnings, Tony Weeks recognizes the flagrancy of this ongoing fouling issue and docks Flores a point. Santa Cruz is plodding on and rocking Flores regularly with high right hands now that Weeks has made Flores reconsider his grabbing strategy.

    10-8 Santa Cruz

    79-72 Santa Cruz
     
    IntentionalButt, Nov 23, 2019
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  15. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    When's The Bronze Bomber fighting?
     
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