Deontay Leshun Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II & Léodegario Santa Cruz vs. Miguel Flores RBR

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  1. Juan carlos

    Juan carlos Active Member Full Member

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    I can not hate a man who is doing things well gave Ortyz a rematch he asked Fury and wants to unify titles that is the attitude of a true champion
     
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  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Yeah. Hed get schooled for 3 rounds before Bogdan decided he had enough and opted out. :lol:
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Is this what you'll be saying after he one punch KO's Fury, AJ and Ruiz?
     
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  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    And Hrgovic*
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Thing is, that isn't even all that impressive a gauntlet to run. This division is so bad you can run table on all of its best and still have a blah record. :lol:
     
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  6. Sammy123

    Sammy123 Money Maker Staff Member

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    I have no issues with my scoring for this card. Seems to be shared by other sites as well. So yes, there's a case for Wilder to win 1 or 2 rounds in this fight. Be my guest if you wanna go on a crusade to change everyone's opinion that differs from yours. All this shows is that you don't want to give Wilder his credit. Fine by me, still KTFO 7.
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    I'm a Wilder fan. And yeah IB has an irrational hatred for Wilder, much like my rational hatred of AJ.:D But yeah, IB is spot on, Ortiz was shutting him out. But like you said. It didn't matter.
     
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    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    :nonono Nope, he's crap too.
     
  9. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    I thought you'd cheer Ortiz on since he fights out of Miami, FL.

    Ah well, it was a pretty good fight.
     
  10. Sammy123

    Sammy123 Money Maker Staff Member

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    No, it did not matter. It's not the first time where Wilder is behind on the cards, he usually is. We can all laugh at how many rounds he's lost.... but what always happens in the end? :D
     
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  11. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had real hard-earned cash on Dinu over Miller. I should have burned that money instead of handing it over to some faceless corporation (Bovada).
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    I like him, but see nothing special. He's hot and cold, he looks like a million bucks some nights and then stinks the joint out once in awhile like he did with Heredia, KJ, Turner and Little. I have a feeling that version will show up when he shares the ring with a top tier HW.
     
  13. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    not really. He’s relatively heavy handed I’d say but big puncher, probably comes up short on that one.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Wtf are you talking about, "don't want to give Wilder his credit", you absolute weirdo??

    He WON BY KO. End of story. That is the second time he beat Ortiz by KO (after getting outboxed). He's the better man h2h, conclusively (while also paradoxically the vastly inferior boxer in terms of skills). Do you see me calling it a dive? Talking about Ortiz's age? What goddamn excuses or withholding of credit are you talking about?

    Ortiz won every completed round. Period. You, one judge, and people on some other websites might have reeeeeeeached to find a couple of the closest Ortiz rounds to convince yourself Wilder hadn't been getting shut out ..but you're wrong. But it doesn't matter, because Ortiz got KTFO by the better man. Look at me, not giving credit! :confused: I'm giving him every shred of credit he deserves. Your ass needs to chill.

    What you really mean is you want me to be kissing his feet and screaming BOMBSQUAD. Well, too bad. Kiss my ass.
     
  15. JDub

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    money