Deontay Leshun Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II & Léodegario Santa Cruz vs. Miguel Flores RBR

why did Wilder take on the Fury fight in the first place? The answer has nothing to do with Wilder daring to be great, and everything to do with the state Tyson Fury was in and his layoff. A 30 percent Fury beat Wilder, despite clowning around and getting dropped.

 

Exactly. Fury was fat, out of shape and in his worst condition ever.

 

Fury had a clean win by the rules.....he won 10 rounds ..TWO knock downs don't change the outcome or even if you gave Wilder 3.


We'll see ,Fury doenst have the most talent , hes just big and long with genetics...if not for 85 inches of arm length then what ?

AJ is the better fighter after he defeats Ruiz you'll see Wilder run...WATCH.

 

I don’t disagree, he and his team probably saw fury as a soft touch but it still doesn’t change anything. Fury won in my eyes to but I can see why others might agree with the draw, or even wilder winning. Also fury wasn’t in that bad a shape, he was motivated and had something to prove, so if anything he was more primed than he would be now possibly.

Fury now has shown no sign he wants this fight, the next spot he is trying out for is golf. Fury needs that underdog tag, I think he knows he won’t have the same motivation this time. Wilder proved he could hurt the best boxer out there, that’s the bottom line. Ok you can say fury was 30% and can do better, but until he does it’s all fluff.

 

Why not address me coward...you ban others right when the pressure is on ..WEAK. smh

Don't worry little guy I know your other lackey sent you ,hes the one who challenged me to a fight so where is he bc I know for sure HELL you cant ? lmao

Pompous idiot ,how was the fight anyway ? Hopefully you actually discussed boxing bc that your JOB on here ,,,,,,,,not attacking posters with agendas which surprises me your still here but then maybe not ? lmao...

Go ahead PRINCESS ban .. .I just want everyone on the forum to read how much of a wimp you are and your not even that knowledgeable as you pretend to be with that simple literature you write about boxers bc even then ( I KNOW ) you TRY to sound smart ...the funny thing is the site LETS you get away with it bc they themselves are limited and feel they need you,,,they DONT...SAD.

 

Oh man. As an Ortiz fan I am really disappointed about the result.

I was wrong with Wilder's left hook though, I expected it to be effective, but he looked awful like an amateur using it. Wilder really looked bad at some point, his shots were missing and he was reluctant to throw some because Ortiz would counter everytime with better precision. He can take punches though, can't take that away from him.

Ortiz on the other side came in phenomenal shape, can't deny that, really didn't expect the way he fought. He was ready to go full distance for sure. He seemed so lightfooted and confident to me, I don't understand how people here say he was slow, he was damn fast with his legs, but also very focused when he didn't use them, staying in good range. I think he figured out Wilder and saw the path to victory. His team learned from the first fight and knew what to do. He controlled the center of the ring, fainted quite a bit with his double jab to close distance and landed good shots at Wilder. He landed on body and on head and won probably 5-6 rounds until the KO.

But then, Wilder saw his momentum and hit Ortiz in a similar way Klitscho hit Joshua, just harder. Ortiz (and probably nobody else) couldn't take that shot and get up on time, which was quite sad seeing that the round was coming to end in few seconds. Not really sure if I should praise Wilder for seeing the momentum or blame Ortiz for allowing himself to get in such position on the ropes and get hit. In some way I can understand people saying he got sloppy and too confident. But on the otherside, Ortiz was relaxed during all the 7 rounds as if he knew he figured out Wilder and was prepared for all he got. He enjoyed the fight if you ask me, but he knows he made a mixtake in that 7th round which he trained not to do and that upsets him the most.

Respect to both of them. I really wish to see Ortiz against other top contenders, but who would step up with him now that he is in top shape? Wilder vs Fury seems to be on, this time I'm favoring Wilder to win it. Even though im far way from being a Wilder fan, I can't see who can avoid getting hit by him.

Post Shi*um:
Ortiz for me is the better boxer, but it doesn't matter in the end. All that matters is the W or L and he got the L. Sadly I am not fascinated by simple 1-2 KOs, I am more fascinated by outboxing opponents and gradually work your way to a KO, but the former seems to be the standard in the Heavyweight division today, one shot that ends it all (joshua-povetkin, whyte-chisora, wilder-anyone,...).

Ortiz may have shown the path how to beat Wilder, but who can go that path to end?

Thats my two cents from last night. Cheers.

 

Wilder's skill set is pretty limited. Ortiz was winning on the scorecards.

At the end of the day, though, Wilder's record isn't gonna say that he was getting outboxed by a 40 year old (at least) man. It'll simply say that he beat Ortiz by KO.

 

I don't care for Fury, he's a circus show but yes I'll give him props if he fights someone his age with a decent skill: Whyte, Ruiz, Hunter, Usyk, AJ etc.

Enough of fighting bums and old men.

 

Lighten up, Francis.

It’s a message board.

 

Well my message then is be careful who you continue to poke bc that guy might poke back with a hatchet and these days they make REAL light ones so lightening up isn't a problem here particularly who I was once associated with so if you can't back up what you say better to just say nothing !

On top of that im pretty sure no one makes funnier posts then me and you guys cant even out do me there either...…………………...