Fury's stock has risen

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  1. BoxingFacts

    BoxingFacts Member Full Member

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    Every KO Wilder gets on his record, Fury's stock increases, Fury got knocked down and got back up with composure and to bring the fight to Wilder is a testament to Fury. When the storm clears I see Wilder and Fury at the pinnacle and Joshua and Ruiz a tier below
     
  2. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Dustin Nichols likewise
     
  3. smiffyinoz

    smiffyinoz Active Member Full Member

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    It needed to after he went life and death with the Wally
     
  4. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    If Wilder fights have proven one thing, it's that you don't have to be anyway near a master boxer to outbox him.
    You do have to get past his right hand for 12 rounds and the PBC judges though, which is quite a bit harder.

    I don't think Saturday night did anything for Fury's legacy at all.
     
  5. madballster

    madballster VIP Member Full Member

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    Basically it showed the same thing we knew all along: If you're as good as Duhaupas, Szpilka or 40 year old Ortiz you can outbox and take rounds from Wilder with ease.
     
  6. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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    I think fury gets dropped and stopped in the rematch
     
  7. BoxingFacts

    BoxingFacts Member Full Member

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    I don't remember Dustin Nichols getting a controversial draw, didn't he lose to Wilder by being pulled out in his corner?
     
  8. BoxingFacts

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    I understand that but my point is that Fury took Wilder metal and still won in most people's eyes, I am more focused on the ability of taking Wilders power
     
  9. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People need to start giving Fury some chin credit, that's for sure. Ortiz just got one-punched with a short RH to the forehead. Wilder hit Fury with a lunging RH and LH combo to the side of his face.

    As for Wilder's boxing, he outboxed Stiverne, people forget that. Stiverne outboxed Arreola who was a very experienced boxer. Spilk did well, but he's actually pretty slick. He outboxed an old but still decent Adamek!

    I think Wilder fought Ortiz a couple of times with extremely low volume for certain reasons, and he had trouble finding Fury, but doesn't mean he can't box at all. He's so confident in landing his bomb now, he's just content to stalk and give up rounds.
     
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  10. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    *Off-topic rant*

    This Dustin Nichols charade is baseless. It's not like Wilder was the first fighter going through bums early in his career. Literally ALL the greats had their share of bums, tomato cans, plebs or whatever you want to call them.
     
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  11. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Wilder has honoured that tradition by taking two or three other guys share also. He's 34, held that belt for what, ten fights? He's yet to face a bona fide top 5 contender in their prime with no concerns over fitness. Still, perhaps he's still early in his career.
     
  12. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Stiverne was getting outboxed by past it Arreola in the rematch before scoring the KO. He got Larry Holmes'd by shot Ray Austin before catching up to him and needed a gift against Rossy after the Wilder fight. Don't act like he was a good boxer because he beat most of his opponents with chin and a punch instead of boxing skill.
     
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  13. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Ahaha haha haha. GTFOH. Otto Wallin disagrees with you.
     
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The Gypsy King was robbed blind against Bootleg Dorticos despite the fact that he

    Hadn't fought anyone with a pulse in three years
    Prior to the two exhibition 'fights' he'd had against zero threat scrubs, had been completely inactive for two and a half years
    Spent the entirety of his inactivity shovelling industrial amounts of coke up his bugle (so much so that his voice completely changed), guzzling on industrial amounts of booze (a minimum of 16 pints per night before moving on to the spirits), and pigging out on enough junk food per day to feed a small country
    Had to shed 140lbs after ballooning up to over 400lbs
    Had been battling chronic depression and suicidal thoughts all throughout his inactivity which got so bad at one point he suffered a nervous breakdown and came close to offing himself. His own father, brother and trainer were dead against him taking the fight against Bootleg Dorticos because they knew exactly what he'd been through and wasn't even remotely close to being back to his best. Big John Fury still to this day won't talk to Tyson's team because of them allowing him to take the fight.


    ''I though my son was going to die'' -- Big John Fury

    ''We would never put the truth out there about what Tyson has really been through''-- Ben Davison
     
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  15. Hussle

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    From where it had fallen after getting busted up by that Swede??
     
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