Smith VS Ryder is one of the most DISGUSTING robberies in YEARS

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  1. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cos im a Bloodclat baby
     
  2. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had it 116-112 to Ryder. My scorecard

    1. Smith
    2. Ryder
    3. Ryder
    4. Smith
    5. Ryder
    6. Smith
    7. Ryder
    8. Ryder
    9. Smith
    10. Ryder
    11. Ryder
    12. Ryder

    Rounds 1-6 were close and I can understand how scorecards differ on those. However from round 7 onwards Ryder was the boss of the fight and dominating clearly.
     
  3. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    So I take it you score jabs and power punches equal.

    Canelo showed better defense, landed the cleaner punches, landed at a higher percentage and made GGG change his style while Canelo used one of his more common styles.

    The only areas you can make some kind of argument that GGG bested Canelo is probably ring generalship.
     
  4. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Yawn. I'm fine with you lying to yourself and even trying to convince others with your fanboy bull**** but can you try to keep threads not about Canelo about their actual subjects?

    Just to remind you this thread is about John Ryder and Callum Smith.
     
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  5. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    What a great argument.
     
  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I knew you'd come back with something like this. It's part of why you're so boring. I asked why you'd made this thread about your man crush when it's clearly supposed to be about Ryder and you can't handle it.

    And as per going on Golovkin Canelo with you again for what would no doubt be the millionth time you've done that with someone on these boards and still not had the penny drop, I've got about as much chance as making you see what most people did as convincing a pair of Jehovah's Witnesses to stop knocking on people's doors so figure what's the point?

    I mean you're too blinded by your fandom to even grasp why some boxing fans don't like him and think he's bad for the sport. You've literally never found any of his behaviour to not be to your liking.

    Now for one final time, do you have anything to add about Smith vs Ryder?
     
  7. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    The full bout has now been uploaded to YouTube by Sky. At the moment it is being massively disliked. I'm sure they'll pay for some bots though.
    Hopefully Sky sees this reaction, since they regularly read comments and respond.

    Still, the damage has been done.
     
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  8. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm scoring this as I watch it a second time as I thought this was really close.
    R1. Smith 10-9
    R2. Ryder 19-19
    R3. Smith 29-28
    R4. Ryder 38-38
    R5. Ryder 47-48
    R6. Smith 57-57
    R7. Ryder 66-67
    R8. Smith 76-76
    R9. Smith 86-85
    R10. Smith 96-94
    R11. Ryder 105-104
    R12. Ryder 114-114
    114-114 draw. What a tactical war this was.
    Yknow what I thought Ryder won this 7-5 or 8-4 initially but I was wrong. Damn close fight. Some real nip and tuck stuff with many close rounds.
     
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  9. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dunno Smith got a lot of rounds at that point too. It was even the whole way throughout until the last two rounds.
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    DAZN uploaded Smith vs Groves to their channel the other day too

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  11. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Listen dude I gave it 7-5 to Ryder the first time but a second time it was 6-6 with at least four very close rounds.
     
  12. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jabs count for quite a lot too mate. You can easily win a fight on a jab.
     
  13. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes. Spot on, this is exactly how I see it. The second viewing made it very clear to me.
     
  14. IsaL

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    If it neutralizes the opponent. But if your only landing an avg of three more punches per round and those punches are jabs.. it's hard to argue that those three jabs win over clean power punches.
     
  15. destruction

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    The difficulty with scoring the fight is that Callum was throwing a lot of punches at range that were not scoring shots. Alot of them missing, falling short, falling wide or being blocked. I think alot of people scoring the fight for Callum were scoring some of these shots as landing. Unless they land they are not scoring shots.

    The first 6 rounds is difficult to score because this was when Ryder was more cautious and I can see how people could give Callum alot of thosr rounds.

    The issue people have with the fight is the scorecards of 116-112 and 117-111 to Callum Smith. Ryder for me won 5 of the last 6 rounds very CLEAR. So even if you gave all of the first 6 rounds to Callum, then its not possible to come to such a wide card. The widest card you could be coming to is 115-113 to Callum Smith.

    I would in any case question how you could give all the first 6 rounds to Callum Smith when it was so close. It was a cagey and close first 6 rounds but not a blow out for Callum Smith.
     
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