Unpopular opinion. Smith vs Ryder was not a clear Ryder win.

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I had it 3-0 Smith. I think I gave him the 10th also.
     
  2. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you are giving Smith that fight you must be scoring the punches blocked, ducked and falling short as scoring shots.

    Ryder was extremely skilled in the fight at making Smith miss or blocking his shots. Smith barely landed anything on him all fight. Whilst he was able to step inside and rip into Smith downstairs and upstairs, landing a lot of clean flush shots.

    I can’t really understand any other scorecard than a Ryder win in this fight. Simply because of how little Smith was able to land, and the fact Ryder landed more and landed the heavier shots. Look at Smiths and Ryder’s reactions at the final bell it’s telling.
     
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  3. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The problem with this fight is that a lot of rounds were very close and very difficult to score so the result could be anything from a draw to 7-8 rounds to each of the boxers.
    I personally scored 5 rounds to Smith, so he obviously got the every possible benefit of the doubt from the judges.
     
  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Only scorecards posted thus far have had it for Ryder.
     
  5. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Tell this to No Neck.
     
  6. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As I said terrible scorecards but I had it a draw.
     
  7. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah that's your stupid opinion and I really don't rate yours at all.
     
  8. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I did too, then I figured I was wrong.
     
  9. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Okay I did it in another thread hold on.
     
  10. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    R1. Smith 10-9
    R2. Ryder 19-19
    R3. Smith 29-28
    R4. Ryder 38-38
    R5. Ryder 47-48
    R6. Smith 57-57
    R7. Ryder 66-67
    R8. Smith 76-76
    R9. Smith 86-85
    R10. Smith 96-94
    R11. Ryder 105-104
    R12. Ryder 114-114
    Very different to you guys but I felt Smith controlled more of the later rounds than you thought by tying Ryder up when he got on the inside. He got battered in the last two rounds though.
     
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  11. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I gave him the tenth, and the eighth and ninth. He tied Ryder up well those rounds and got his own work off at distance.
     
  12. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Smith landed plenty I don't think you were paying too much attention if that's the case.
     
  13. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shite cards agreed.
     
  14. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would ask you to watch it again pal. Yes Smith landed. But he didnt land as much as you gave him credit for. Many of the shots were blocked, fell short or ducked. Ryder's defensive skills were sensational. They needed to be in order to beat someone with such huge reach and size advantages over him.
     
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  15. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He made Smith miss a lot yes but Smith landed a lot too, I'm not overestimating what he landed, I made a concerted effort not to the second time around and I thought he did better than previously estimated. I've already watched it twice now so I'm not looking at it for another while at least.