An honest assessment of wilder

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  1. Manfred

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  2. Manfred

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    He didn't look tired to me but he did look like he was coo coo for coco puffs after that right hand
     
  3. blackfella96

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    But isn't 95% of the divisions resume going to be thin? None of em are fighting each other. Joseph Parker, Andy Ruiz, Kownacki, Usyk, Brezeale, Rivas, Joyce.... They all don't have big resumes, but we know they can fight and punch. Having a lackluster resume dones't mean you're a crap or overrated fighter. Vitali's resume isn't the greatest but he's widely considered to be a great fighter. Ortiz is a great fighter, with great abilities, he ain't overrated.

    EDIT: Usyk resume at Heavyweight, not cruiserweight
     
  4. Manfred

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    No heavyweights resume out there is any better than Wilders. Really, Fury and Joshua's only claim to fame is Klitschko and he was past prime in both fights.
     
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  5. fistsof steel

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    The best at heavyweight of a pretty ordinary lot....before you get to excited just an opinion not the Word of God.!!!!
     
  6. MrFoFody

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    So very true unfortunately there are many biased fanboys that dont see it this way.
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

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    Because the two champions he fought both beat him? Just like they would Ortiz...
     
  8. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ resume shits on wilder's resume.
    He has an unbeaten whyte, past prime Klitschko in a classic, unbeaten parker and povetkin.
    That's a very good resume.

    Wilder has ortiz twice

    Fury has a very good klitschko, a prime
    Wilder and twice chisora. That's quite good to be honest also.
     
  9. Saintpat

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    Fun fact: resume includes defeat. Got knocked out by an overweight guy who had lost his only meaningful prior fight.
     
  10. NoNeck

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    1. Povetkin failed a PEDs test twice, preventing the Wilder fights. The second time was before the eliminator with Stiverne.
    2. Joshua shouldn't have gotten his ass kicked if he wanted the Wilder fight. He still might get it.
     
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  11. NoNeck

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    Calm down. He beat Eddie Chambers and Chagaev a decade ago.
     
  12. NoNeck

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    Why?

    A draw against Fury is better than beating Chambers.
    Beating 2018 Ortiz is better than beating Chagaev
    Beating 2019 Ortiz is better than beating Perez
    Beating Stiverne (top 3 in division, champion) is better than beating Takam
    Duhaupas, Scott, Washington, Szpilka are about as good as the rest of Povetkin's wins.
     
  13. NoNeck

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    AJ also got his ass kicked and quit in his last fight.
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

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    Irrelevant, he still beat them
     
  15. NoNeck

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    See my post above. Povetkin's resume is worse than Wilder's and better than Ortiz's.
     
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