Mike Tyson hits harder than Wilder

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  1. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Per George Foreman TMZ


    he 70-year-old boxing legend is still a hardcore fan of the sport -- and while he's super impressed with Wilder's run, he's simply not ready to put Deontay in the pantheon with the all-time greats.

    "He’s good but he hasn’t approached Joe Louis, Joe Frazier, Mike Tyson. No, he hasn’t approached that kind of recognition yet. No way," Foreman says.

    Despite big wins over guys like Luis Ortiz and Dominic Breazeale, Foreman says Wilder still needs a signature win over a top-tier opponent to get the respect he craves.

    "For me, he has to have a performance like Mike Tyson did over Trevor Berbick. Boy, when I saw that, I was down visiting Vegas, and I thought, ‘This guy is a nightmare!'"

    In case you need a refresher, Tyson's 1986 victory over Berbick is one of the most violent EVER -- he dominated the WBC heavyweight champ for 2 rounds before finally putting him



    https://www.tmz.com/2019/11/26/george-foreman-mike-tyson-deontay-wilder-boxing-heavyweight/
     
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  2. Juan carlos

    Juan carlos Active Member Full Member

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    Deontay Wilder has longer arms than Tyson for that reason he does not have to enter the guard of his opponent to be able to hit them he does it from long distance at ease so he can connect the blow in a blunt way it is as if he was hitting a punching bag you can hit harder that way than enter the guard and throw blows at close range
     
  3. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Who actually stayed on the canvas who they fought would answer this simple debate.

    Its not even close , If Wilder was this killer in the ring most wouldn't be able to get up and that's realistically not the case and when you add qualities guys it further shows you M.Tyson hits harder ,go watch Botha and Mathis knockouts those are true lights out abilities. Those are just 2 . Wilder knocked Szpilka , ( so did Chisora and Jennings ) and Lachovich and ???? Worth mentioning ,im not counting 2 years out of ring Stiverne who is not a top fighter in that rematch .

    I'll give Wilder a pass on Breazeale since hes a difficult guy to knockout ( he couldn't get up from AJ ) and almost beat the 10 count.

    Wilder can punch for sure but if he cant have guys stay down then how is he a killer ? M.Tyson was a brutal puncher ,ask Spinks , Holmes and Bruno who always got knocked out bc of stamina but against Tyson got wrecked twice early . These stoppages are far more impressive even if you think its bc of combination punching,a knockout artist doesn't limit it to PER punch...the knockout king is M. Tyson here.
     
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  4. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Plenty of Tyson's opponents could have gotten up but chose not to. The list of fighters he's actually put to sleep is actually pretty thin
     
  5. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Like who ? Haha Stop ..another Wilder fanatic who doesn't know what hes talking about. let me guess eye ball rolled up into the top of his head Spinks maybe ?
     
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  6. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Active Member Full Member

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    Szpilka didn't get ko'd like that from anyone else, and Liakhovich literally had a seizure, that's serious power. It took AJ 7 rounds of beating Brezeale to put him down for good, which was also a TKO (Which meant the referee stopped it) but took Wilder 1 round with a KO, Wilder obviously has the edge here.

    They both have different power, Wilder has that 1 punch and send you to the shadow realm. Tyson has explosive power that stagger and stun you like crazy.
    Look at the KO percentages
    Wilder: 97%
    Tyson: 76%

    Stats don't lie
     
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  7. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    I'm a big Tyson fan actually and unlike you am actually old enough to have an opinion that isn't based off of YouTube clips. I like watching Wilder but I wouldnt call myself a fantatic of any current boxer. Is this how you approach every discussion by trying to tell the other person what they think and how stupid they are before you even hear them out? Jesus get a grip
     
  8. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    Stats do lie, all the time. Did you know that 100% of people who drink water will die?

    Especially in boxing, where so much is subjective, and the level of your competition affects all of your stats.
     
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  9. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    It is an interesting topic as I believe Wilder is coming into his prime now which makes some forget that he struggled with some D level opponents like Molina, Spilka, Daupas and it took him time to stop a shot Arreola.
     
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  10. gold

    gold Well-Known Member Full Member

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    KO percentages don't mean anything if you are knocking out tomato cans.
    Arreola already stated that Vitaly hit harder than Wilder and Danny Williams said Mike Tyson hit harder than Vitaly.
    Mike Tyson was a much harder puncher.
     
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  11. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Active Member Full Member

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    That stat is true though lol
     
  12. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    It is true, yet misleading. Just like a high KO % against bad to mediocre competition does too.
     
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  13. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Active Member Full Member

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    It's just hard to gauge for me, because Tyson was a great puncher, but he did throw in a lot of combinations... He is a better puncher in the sense of he has great hooks, great uppercuts, great counter punching....but Wilder only needs 1 punch, Mike needed a few. I mean Breazeale has a great chin, but **** me, he got absolutely wrecked by that 1 punch. Tyson will drop you hard, and then follow up. This will be easier to compare when their careers are over. Just enjoy the knockouts lads, they getting better every year
     
  14. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Active Member Full Member

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    But for comparisons sake, Lewis and Morrison both got Ruddock out of there faster than Tyson, and I personally don't believe they were harder hitters than Tyson..... I go off what I see, and we all seen that Ortiz didn't know where he was after literally 1 punch...and he isn't mediocre is he
     
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  15. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    C'mon on the KO percentages look @ who both guys faced in the ring Tyson did not fight cherry picked boxers.