Why do people have a hard time accepting that Tyson's resume...

AJ's is better but Tyson's isn't a million miles behind, more a result of AJ's resume not being as amazing as we sometimes think (not that anyone really has an amazing resume at that weight).

The fact the Wlad fight was boring is irrelevant to the resume discussion. He beat a younger Wlad too, which is worth noting. Chisora twice is fine, not amazing but it's not bad. Waillin I think will probably turn out to be a decent win retrospectively. The Wilder fight should be a W which is certainly a good win, even just as a draw it's decent.

AJ of course has Wlad which - despite his age and having his career longest layoff - is still a good win. Parker is prime but not that good, decent win. Povetkin way past prime but still a legit win. Whyte was a level below where he is now at the time. What AJ does have is more 'filler' than Fury in the form of Molina, Breazeale etc.

And of course, we can't forget only one has an #L on the resume....(yes, Tyson ought to have one too from early in his career, let's be fair).

 

If you fight the best, you are going to take losses. Seeing as Fury fights weak boxing opposition, he decreases his chance of taking losses.

So wins/losses really is a completely meaningless statistic without context.

Pianeta, Schwarz, Wallin, Seferi... these are supposed to be competitive bouts at that stage in his career. Disappointing for someone who is claimed to be the superior boxer in the division.

Meanwhile, the limited Whyte is taking on far superior opposition without the height/reach/mobility/skill advantages that Fury enjoys.

Now I ask, who is more impressive?

 

AJ I guess, he's the only who hasn't failed any tests.

 

I'll give you that for now.

 

a draw against number in the division is a fantastic achievement but I don’t see how it equates to more than multiple wins agains decent level opposition.

 

I’ve said this before but I think it has something to do with that dumb goofy USB prediction Wlad made. Reckon he probably predicted winning in a certain round or with a certain punch or even on points and that’s why he never tried to finish AJ when he had the chance.

I think AJ said he knows what was on the USB and he said it was almost right. That was the most ******ed **** I’ve seen in boxing for a while.

 

Ironic that you talk about adding context then ignore the fact that Fury hadn’t fought for nearly 3 years when he fought Seferi and then Pianeta. He also had to shift 9 stone and control some mental health demons.

I’m utterly bored of your tripe. Welcome back to the forum.

 

Is it our fault that Fury has had to deal with mental demons? Excuse me for not feeling sorry for a multimillionaire. Oh how terrible... he must be the only one in the world with mental problems. Surely all of our lives are just rosy! Right? Hows yours going Twenty?

Not a man or woman born of their mother wont be going through dire trials and tribulations in life.

So he walked away from the sports and took a layoff... thats his problem he can go **** himself as far as im concerned, because while people like Whyte and AJ are out here working their arses off, like many other fighters... and staying focused whether they have or have not won a world title... doesnt mean we should all feel sorry for Fury.

ANYWAYS

So he took time off, and went for a tune up... fair play... Funny how AJ and Whyte rarely take tune ups, and even when they do they are usually just one time, before going with stronger opposition... what's fury's excuse for , pianeta,schwarz, , Wallin???

Don't worry... I'll answer that in Fury's words "Young, hungry, dangerous, and hungry" and sometimes "undefeated"

Whyte has consistently fought tough experienced skilled opposition, and tested himself hard.

I don't feel sorry for Tyson Fury. I know people that have mental problems, and live paycheck to paycheck because they were hard done by others, and misfortune.

But thank you for your welcome.

 

We’re not talking about ‘everyday’ people like me and you, were talking about prizefighters and why Fury had a couple of joke tune ups to get his confidence back from a very long lay off. Added to that, you failed to acknowledge him fighting one of the most dangerous, hardest hitting heavyweights of all time in-between. Should have been a win, but that draw is better than anything on Whyte’s resume’.

And it’s bi-polar by the way. Whether you like the man or hate the man, bi-polar is a terrible thing to live with, and claims many lives every year.

 

From an entertainment perspective.

 

Again depends what you find entertaining isn't it? Martin v Joshua was not entertaining at all. Just because Martin got knocked down and quit doesn't make it entertaining to me. Not that I found the Fury fight exciting but you get my point.

 

No I do understand that it’s a question of what you enjoy, but I think Klitschko Fury was from a personal point of view the least entertaining heavyweight title fight I’ve ever seen.

 

You called it the worst title fight of all time. It was 2 of the best heavyweights in the last decade, it really wasn't. There have been some horendous mismatches in title fights. They are far worse.

 

Like I said... whose fault is the layoff?? Its not my fault.

It's not Boris Johnsons fault, or anyone here. Fury can blame himself for that. Others have taken layoffs, and come back to fight stronger 2nd, 3rd, 4th opponents.

Also... am I supposed to be impressed that Fury fought Wilder???? Why?

Everyone wants to fight the champ. Whyte has been waiting 600 days for a chance, as the number 1 ranked contender. He offered 9 Million dollars to get that chance when Fury wasnt even in the rankings.

Wilder chose Fury, so excuse me for not being impressed. Anyone would LOVE oppurtuniy to fight the champ and make millions... especially a prizefighter... unfortunately not every fighter gets those opportunities no matter how hard they work for it... because of politics.

Furys draw is better than anyhing on Whytes resume? Sure... Wilder is the biggest joke in boxing, you know this deep down... the most superior contender vs the most unskilled champ in history.

Whyte, relatively speaking, has taken on far bigger challenges. So I disagree.

Bi-polar is a terrible thing to deal with? Yeah tell me about it, I've been Bi-polar my whole life. So I know excatly how Fury feels and can relate to everything he describes... yet I dont cry about it.... and I dont cry about it to others. Instead I count my lucky blessings that I have a job, my health, a family, and can still use my whole body... which many billions in the world dont have.

So I wont feel sorry for bi-polar multimillionaire Fury, I'll feel sorry for the human beings below the breadline not by their choice, or those being oppressed against their wills.. or the helpless and defenceless sold on the slave market, or caught up in sex trafficking, or the fighters who were shot by gangsters, or derailed from their career by huge misfortunes not caused by them feeling sorry for themselves or getting bored and walking away from their career.

 

Drama queen