Lead foot facing oponnents centerline

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  1. Wagoat

    Wagoat Member Full Member

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    Lately i’m trying to outbox taller fighters
    And what i found out that worked for me is when i go left and place my lead foot pointing in between his legs i have a good jabbing angle and my oponnent is squared up and can’t defend and because he’s squared up his punches are shorter and can’t realy punch me from that postion
    But i can not always get this postion on my opponent so my question is do you Guys have tricks tips to get this position
    Also what’s your throughs on this position and are their other postions small angles positions so you can outjab them land punches because you cannot always get the big angles on your oponnent
     
  2. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Feints and bobbing n weaving are the key. Gotta make them miss their own jab to get inside their lead foot. That or you time their lead hand as it rises and lowers. You'll notice most guys do it with a regular rhythm. I've got a personal favourite move to tell ya. Time the lead hand, as it lowers double jab and move forward with a shift step, essentially switching stances and at the same time "jabbing" with your previously back hand (it'll have the momentum of a straight) then follow through with an overhand with your back hand. Boom chin cracked. I exclusively spar taller guys so this is what works trust me. You'll need to be decently balanced with the power of your fists so maybe work on that for a good while. Mind you I'm a right handed southpaw who's quite ambidextrous so I'm naturally well suited for this maneuever, good luck dude.
     
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  3. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To get into that position, you want to dip slightly left and launch your jab. Be careful here because you are exposing yourself to a nasty right hand counter if his timing is better than yours. Pull the left hand back up high to protect your head. Anyhow, after you throw that jab, what you do is take the front foot with a very short step forward and to the left., then pivot the back foot to put yourself into the position you want. This is the moment you can let of your punches. If he goes to his left you can repeat, but if he's smart, he'll maneuver slightly right and let off a right hand counter.

    Hard to explain in writing, but I hope you get the idea.
     
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  4. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Hey man, I haven't got time to write a full post at the mo, so I'd reccomend watching these videos on center line etc.
    Also, look up a poster on sherdog called Sinister. Basically, your problem is you need to be moving the right foot first, pivot etc to keep the right stance and weight distribution of an L stance. Was a tremendous help for my boxing a few years back.
    For outboxing taller men in this manner, Miguel Canto is a must watch for you. Fighting Harada also if your style is more aggressive (he had a tremendous triple jab that he'd use to destroy boxers, even getting to Jofre).

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  5. Wagoat

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    Thanks you give me alot of great tips and analyse lately thanks
     
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    Thanks for the advice and thanks for mentioned to be wary of right hand counters
     
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    Ok i Will try this
     
  8. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It'll take practice and its worth being wary of counters, it's really one to take them off guard as when you time that lead hand lowering they tend to go for a jab as quickly as possible when you double jab them so with the shift step you switch stance and basically slip it in one move. That overhand better come fast too as they'll be swinging their own cross at you and you need to hit first or get them moving out of the way. It's best to finish the move off with a pivot off the front foot to the right (assuming you're orthodox and your opponent is too, it's confusing for me as a southpaw to envision that although I switch stances often). This will leave you on his blindside and he'd likely be a bit stunned as you have basically thrown two straights in a flash and that'll catch them off guard. You can also safely reset your stance in that position as it'll give you more space in fact. You can also catch them with another sneaky jab over their shoulder after it. This move has caught many guys for me, it's hard to read and you'll almost always end up inside their lead foot and at the end with that final pivot you can step daintily onto the outside leaving them bamboozled. It's complex in words. I've tried my best to describe it. It's very simple on action. I'll try to see if I can find an example video, GGG has definitely used it.
     
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  9. ShovelHook

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    Holy guacamole I found it on the first video thank the Lord for GGG and his beautiful shift steps, the forgotten art I tell ya, thankfully my coach has hammered that into our heads, he's got it sussed out. At 1:26 of this video you'll see a clip of GGG using this on Monroe Jr. It's a thing of sheer beauty.
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  10. Wagoat

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    Im going to practice this thanks
    But it’s tricky to pull of i think
     
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  11. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It takes some getting used to yes but when you use it it's very successful at catching opponents off guard and getting them in big trouble. I mean look at that follow up by Golovkin on Monroe Jr and it tells you a good story about how effective it can be.