Want to compare their wins over guys with winning records>? Coley Wallace was famous for looking like a young Joe Louis ,what else did he do? Charles won those 2 fights, but he lost the 2 before that. Satterfiled destroyed Valdes? Box Rec says he took a decision off him.Satterfield BTW was 6'2",just an inch shorter than Nino.
Go back and look at Wilder's resume, and then see how ridiculous your argument is! Wilder is basically the all time king of milking the belt. He basically brought the art to an all time low! Marciano was one of the most scrupulous lineal champions in history, in terms of taking on the most deserving challengers! That is the bottom line!
I was replying to this part of your post. "Based on his previous choices of opponents, anybody with a pulse has business in the ring with Deontay Wilder" FYI Marciano fought one of the longest collections of set ups any heavyweight has ever been fed. Seven of them were under180lbs! In his 31st Fight Keene Simmons8-8-1 32nd Harold Mitchell181lbs 4-14-3 33rd Art Henri 13-15-1 34th Willis Applegate 11-14-2 Compare!!! Wilder's 31st fight Malik Scott 36-1-1 32rd fight Jason Gavern 26-16-4 33rd Bermane Stiverne 24-1-1 For the title. 34th Eric Molina 23-2-0
My question would be with sooooooooooooo much more money at heavyweight why would the best cruiserweights not be moving up and earning millions more if they could successfully do so? Imagine the acclaim and fame. Fighters have been moving up in search of greater fame, fortune and challenge forever. Admittedly Evander Holyfield did it brilliantly tho he did do it early on and some might speculate chemical assistance may have made a big difference. You might have the last laugh if a guy like Ursyk beats a Wilder.
Satterfield was 5'10 - watch the fight against the 6'3 Nino and you can see the vast difference in height - Satterfield dominated and dropped Nino for a 9 count in the last rd -the decision Charles lost to Harold Johnson was disputed and the Valdez fight was a close loss that Nino refused to rematch- fact is Nino lost 4 fights in a row from 11/24/52 to 5/21/53 - Billy Gilliam (who Charles beat in Gilliams next fight) Coley Wallace KO'd Gilliam in the next fight and Charles KO' Wallace in Coleys next fight. Nino also lost to Archie Moore in 53 UD, Nino lost to Harold Johnson who was beaten and then KO'd in 1953 by Archie Moore, Bob Baker also beat Nino in 1953 and Satterfield then Archie Moore Ko'd Baker in 1954 I see you were parading for Nino to get a title shot in 1954 but Nino lost in an elimination to Archie Moore so Archie rightfully got the title shot first. Nino was given another shot in an elimination vs the 5'10 Satterfield and was beaten badly and dropped in the final round losing all hope at a 1956 fight vs Marciano- with Satterfield being KO'd by Archie and Ezzard -and Patterson staying at light heavy - Marciano had no fights of interest $ and retired 49-0 43ko's
I would wager most of the top guys are on PEDs of some type unfortunately. Plenty of others have moved up Haye, Byrd, Jones, Spinks, Tooney, Holyfield, Moorer, exc exc have moved up with success. Not much in the last five years let’s see how Usyk does.
Everyone of these has stylistic advantages and physical advantages over Marciano. There has been no slow-handed, powerpuncher of Rocky's size that has made a dent in the division since, well, Rocky. Maybe Bonavena has an argument. But guys like Holy and Haye and Moorer, guys 6-2 plus with 78" reaches draw zero comparison. And comparing Marciano to Toney and Byrd is ridiculous. Those guys avoided more shots by accident than Marciano did on purpose.
Not fighting the top contenders, is a significantly greater mark against a champion, than having fought some men with poor records. Their respective records are not your friend here. Far from it in fact!
Satterfield is listed as 6'2" by both Box Rec and Wikipaedia unless you can produce definitive proof to the contrary I'm going with that. And he didnt "destroy Valdes," he beat him on points so can we drop the hyperbole? I'm parading NOTHING! Valdes was the number 1 contender in 53 & 54.YES or NO? Have I got to copy the Ring Ratings out for you to accept this? You're giving me a lot of info I already know I have Ring Magazines back to1950.
Nister KO Joshua- Nister is listed at 5'11 and having a 68 1/2 inch reach on Boxrec - He is older now and turning pro - a little raw but acquitted himself well against the polished Uysk in the finals- Nister can drop weight and get in better condition but he did stop the 7 inch taller and 14 inch reach advantage - my point being that will and range not size are key in boxing - just like the 6ft Romanov got inside range against Wilder - size can be used as an advantage and so can smaller size if the person in question fights from his range and imposes his will. Ruiz was listed taller than he is as we have seen against Joshua - No way Ruiz was 6'1 or had a 70 inch reach if so Joshua has an 85 inch reach and at 6'6 looked taller This content is protected
You’re missing the point completely. It’s not about what physical attributes it’s about can a fighter successfully gain a few pounds and compete and the overwhelming answer is of course. Maybe none of those guys had Rocky’s physical advantages. None of them had his stamina, power, two hand KO ability, awkward unique style, or chin. More to a fighter then arm reach. Actually arm reach really is the least valuable when compared to power, stamina, style, chin exc.