Lets be honest. Muhammad Ali is good, but not that great...

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  1. daniel263

    daniel263 New Member banned Full Member

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    Nearly everyone who says Ali is the GOAT is usually a clueless casual who is just saying it because thats what the media portrays him as.

    the truth is, people overhyped him because of the good he does for his people and his political impact. His death also made his legacy much better, similar to when 2pac died.

    He has 5 losses. Many boxers hit way harder than him. He only did good because he was tall and had good reach.

    He is a good boxer, but not an elite like Mayweather, Oscar, even Tyson
     
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  2. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Ali a good fighter? Without him we'd never have heard of Frazier, Foreman, Shavers, Norton, Holmes, etc.
     
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  3. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Now now he's still up there as one of the best ever don't get it twisted. He was very good, my main gripe with him is he never threw body shots and he never adapted to Ken Norton despite it being advertised that he overcame him, just robbed him. Ali was indeed overhyped because he was a Liberal media icon being a proud black Muslim who railed against the white man. Still treated Joe Frazier like **** calling him an uncle Tom and race traitor which I can't abide by. I think he's a very clear case of narcissistic personality disorder, a charming one too, so many fools bought into his shtick as they were too ignorant to see how odious his bravado was.
     
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  4. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What? No, these men all made names for themselves outside of Ali's contributions to their careers. Don't be silly now.
     
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  5. daniel263

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    overrated bums
     
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  6. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is this thread from an alternate universe?
     
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  7. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    There is no Foreman, Frazier, Holmes and Norton without Ali.
     
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  8. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    He's definitely great, but overrated as well. Both in and out of the ring. Gets a pass on too many things.
     
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  9. PolicemanPrawn

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    He deserves to go down as an ATG but he wouldn't match up too favourably head-to-head against the likes of Tyson, Lewis, Wlad, Vitali, Fury.
     
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  10. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Total nonsense considering Frazier was champ without Ali, as was foreman and Norton also made a name for himself outside of Ali although he had profited the most legacy wise from him because Ali never truly beat him.
     
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  11. Dance84

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    I think he ****s up wlad and fury
     
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  12. George Crowcroft

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    Lmao calling others casuals for calling Ali the Goat, because he has 5 losses then comparing Ali to Tyson and Del a Hoya, who both have more losses...
     
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  13. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Lol i know
     
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  14. daniel263

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    Tyson has more losses because he is an aggressive fighter. Tyson is also 5'10 which is a severe disadvantage.
    De La hoya is champ in 6 divisions
     
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  15. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Is this another ALT from notjustacasual?

    Bonkers thread
     
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