How many "iron chinned" guys has Wilder fought?

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  1. Mario040481

    Mario040481 Member Full Member

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    Oh professional boxing, where it's preferable to look technically proficient whilst being decapitated as opposed to being the sloppy axe man getting the job done, but with blood on his shirt?
    I don't care for Wilder much either, but c'mon, he can punch. Admitting so isn't tantamount to joining his fan club or anything. Some may even feel a little better about things after doing so. Who are the amazing chinned fighters he didn't fight that he should've exactly? I ask because the handful of contemporary fighters he's accused of ducking most, Klitscho, AJ, Whyte, aren't thought of as super chinned fighters and while i believe they could, or more like they should all handle Wilder easily, but they've all shown they can be stopped by the big punch, which would be terribly unfortunate for any of them because they'd immediately lose ALL of their very hard earned credibility with a lot of today's "smart fans" because you CANNOT be a serious fighter if you lose to Deontay Wilder
     
  2. Drago

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    No one!

    Start this clip on the 9 Minute mark and watch 20 seconds from there:

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    Ortiz gets hit with a slight shot to the temple by Chris Hammer and goes down to his knees.
    Imo this was a knockdown but the ref didnt saw it.

    Hammer is no puncher but Ortiz wabbled after getting touched by his left hand, Hammer is right hander.

    Ortiz doesnt have a good chin at all.
     
  3. SmackDaBum

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    Here are some videos explaining different aspects of Wilder's power punching techniques that he uses at least to some degree:

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  4. It's Ovah

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    I'd add Breazeale to that list, although Breazeale tends to get dropped a lot but come back to win, or at least get back into the fight for a bit.

    Ortiz is a tough one to rate. He looks like he can take a punch, with that bull neck and cauldron dome, but he just hasn't fought any decent punchers whatsoever. Jennings was an average puncher, as was Thompson. Allen could punch a bit but had no ability to land his shots. Malik Scott never got close enough to land anything. Hammer caught him with a few decent rights, but he's not much of a puncher either, and Ortiz looked a bit bothered by some of his work, even looked to be wobbled at some point in the fight. After that who the hell is there? Monte Barrett? Lateef Kayode? The corpse of Bert Cooper?
     
  5. It's Ovah

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    It's difficult to see what hits him that drops him to his knees. Could be a head clash. The follow up flurry definitely seemed to rock him, and those were from Hammer's punches, but it's unfair to rate a fighter's ability to take a punch if they've just sustained a clash of heads.

    The jury's still out for me on how well Ortiz can take a shot. Right now I'd say he's average in that category.
     
  6. quest00

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    People that use logic like yours is so bias and backwards at times. Just because somebody goes down or is even knocked out by a "Huge Puncher" none the less does not mean they have a bad chin or don't have a very good chin. I came name dozens of examples. The best one being Roberto Duran, who got ICED vs Hearns. Who also went the distance with a middle weight great in Hagler, Iran Barkly, Davey Moore, I could go on and on. You can't erase history or not account for something because it doesn't support your logic or mood for the night. That is disrespectful to the fighters and the sport. The bottome line is Stiverne went 12 rounds with him, something that most of his opponents were unable to accomplish.
     
  7. ILikeBoxingForRealz

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    Well Fury must have the greatest chin ever then. Im not being biased or getting anything backwards, dont get your panties twisted please. Not being biased toward any fighter, was jus saying Breazeale was laid out. Laid out. Fury wasn't. Which is why in my original post I said Fury and Arreola. I didnt include Breazeale due to him being annihilated by the same guy whom Fury took the distance and beat IMO. Arreola because even tho he was stopped, he took huge shots. Huge shots and kept coming.
     
  8. northpaw

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    I think the Jury is unfortunately out for Ortiz until he fights some other guys.
     
  9. VG_Addict

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    Wilder once hit a guy so hard he had a seizure.

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    You don't do that unless you have freakish power.
     
  10. It's Ovah

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    Or load your gloves.
     
  11. GALVATRON

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    Breazeale and Fury are the only true proven guys who lasted with power punchers and have multiple wins or taking some shot and got up to win.

    Wilder is 1 and 1 in those fights and has never fought a boxer/ puncher of a recent relevant win when he fought them as Ortiz is the only one and was closer to that factor in the first fight in which he almost won .

    Iron chinned guys aren’t usually the top guys ,they are the guys who take beatings because they aren’t on a top level but we have some who are really hard to knock down from looks of it.


    Joyce, Hrgovic, Ruiz, Parker ,Wach , Breazeale , Ortiz , Fury all seem to have a top chin at least now . If you can knock down these guys you can punch and if you can keep them down you can punch really hard.......


    Only one has not gotten up off the floor once and that was Breazeale against AJ .
     
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  12. Heavy_Hitter

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    That's shot Sergey Liakowitch. Even good old Robert Helenius did this to him.