Jersey Joe Walcott vs the 2 following big guys

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Trevor Berbick and Ron Lyle.
     
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  2. Fergy

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    Berbick, Walcott would probably run rings round. I don't see the best of Joe having any major problems with Berbick tbh. Against Lyle, I reckon its a more dangerous game. We know lyle could drop em and immensely strong guy so Walcott can't be getting to C o cky in there. But Walcott could remain calm when undr pressure so he'd do so against any of lyles rampaging flurry s. He should sail through to a decision win maybe even dropping Ron along the way.
     
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  3. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    Berbick at his best took a prime Holmes the distance, who is light years ahead in movement and boxing than Walcott is. Plus Holmes was a weightclass above. These two would rumble for a while, with Berbick beeing the stronger man and Walcott the better fighter on the backfoot. Since Walcott rarely fought modern 215lb HWs, I´m not sure he´d do to well here.
    Lyle has raw power Walcott has never seen before. I see him hurting Walcott, whos chin wasn´t even good at LHW-CW. Now he´d face more raw power. Lyle stops him.
     
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  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Remember, Quarry and Walcott were about the same size and at least equal in skill. So Walcott's size I dont think is really an issue here.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

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    I'd favour Walcott by UD over both. Lyle has a better chance tho
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

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    Errm what?
     
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  7. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Decisions both....but nothing was a definite with Walcott. If we are talking about his best version (first Louis fight I’m guessing?) then that version could grab a decision or KO in a lot of fantasy fights.
     
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  8. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My thoughts exactly, I don't think Walcott comes close to stopping either one
     
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  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    You wouldn't say that the best Walcott was on par with the best Quarry?
     
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  10. George Crowcroft

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    No. Absolutely Not.
     
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  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    I think the best Walcott would beat the best Quarry, TBH.
     
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  12. mcvey

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    Valid point imo.
     
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  13. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Uh yeah, it's kind of hard to beat a man who has better ring generalship than you when you pride yourself on your ring generalship

    Oh also Walcott hits harder
     
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  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    What I meant was that the best Walcott was at least as good as the best Quarry. Maybe you misunderstood me.
     
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  15. Mendoza

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    Walcott did fight bigger men. He looks like he's having an easy time vs Hein Ten Hoff who was 6'3" 219 pounds, I have a good amount of video on the fight, here are the clips

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    Lyle had trouble with mobile defensive fighters, see Jimmy Young so I'll take Walcott over Lyle buts its hardly a pick I'm sure about.

    Berbick to me was stuck between good and very good. I'll go with Walcott on points.
     
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