How do WBC Elimination bouts work?

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  1. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Im just telling you the formally documented procedure of how the WBC gathers information on anti doping for their fighters...

    Like the CIA doesnt work for the United Kingdom... no the UK gets their information formally from MI6

    Its the same ****... so stop playing dumb as if you dont know this

    Its not new news that VADA are affiliated specifically with the WBC... as it is printed all over their online documentation and contracts, ive read them, never saw anything on UKAD.

    Never seen another example of wheree WBC have obtained data from UKAD for their fighters on anti doping.. they havde VADA specifically for this purpose.. thats their main job with the WBC. Fail VADA and you'ra outta here... nothing said on UKAD.. or <insert third pary anti doping agency>
     
  2. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Except the fight took place in UK. It’s beyond moronic to suggest WBC should turn a blindeye to the results of other testing agencies just because they have VADA. I gave you a specific example as to why they should take all the results from all the anti-doping agencies in the case of different agencies doing portions of testings.
     
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    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Right, the WBC sanctioned fight took place in the UK... VADA don't travel?

    VADA obviously go where the fighters go lmao

    I see what you are sayin about blindeye... Im just saying... VADA officially is the authority on antidoping for WBC... now if VADA arent doing their job properly because UKAD supposedly picked something up then there are bigger problems here.

    VADA are the authority... WBC communicate with them officially for all results and handling... and VADA passed Whyte... so that automatically rules and the proof is that Whyte is still in the WBC

    Because they have a very very strict policy on dopers caught by VADA... you are out of the rankings immediately... they just found a beautiful opportunity to get rid of Whyte and keep him away from Wilder... simple as that. doesnt get simpler.
     
  4. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It does get simpler actually. Even Whyte’s biggest lover(you) cannot deny that there’s an ongoing investigation with UKAD and BBCofC, which is the reason for Whyte’s silence according to you.

    So, regardless of which testing agency they’re affiliated with, when a fighter has an ongoing dopping investigation, It’s the most reasonable option to put fighter’s situation on hold. That’s the simplest way to put it.
     
  5. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    It actually irks me that you speak with such confidence on the matter, as if you are in the loop.

    Do you do this at parties or social gatherings? Pretend to know things about topics when you really dont?

    It's a horrible habit... if you aren't part of whats going on behind the scenes, really you should keep quiet for fear of embarrassing yourself.

    Take a lesson from me... wait to see if official information comes out. One more time... *official*.

    Thank you.
     
  6. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The actual point went over your head again, apparently.

    What I’m saying is, even you agree that there’s an ongoing investigation. And when a fighter has an ongoing dopping investigation, It’s perfectly normal to put his status in the title scene on hold. Clear enough for you?
     
  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Can you show me where its been done in similar fashion to Whyte?
     
  8. theanatolian

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    What fashion? You mean being put on hold when there’s an unclear situation? You can check out Povetkin’s first positive test case in 2016, or Canelo’s case last year. Or Lucas Browne for that matter, when he tested positive after his fight with Chagaev.
     
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    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Yeah how were they put on hold?

    What was put on hold?
     
  10. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    WBC eliminations are for fighters deemed too dangerous to take on the beltholder in the hope that they lose somewhere along the way or give up in frustration. Neither Stiverne nor Ortiz did anything to warrant a fight with Wilder, while Whyte was made to jump through hoops time and again and repeatedly fobbed off. I'm not a Whyte fan (he's an annoying loudmouth with an ugly style) but the way he's been treated has been shocking and blatantly smacks of corruption. Regardless of who you think will win, Whyte has earned his shot ten fold, and if he gets cleared by UKAD then there's nothing to stop the fight going ahead and Kownacki being put on the backburner (like that's going to happen).
     
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    Povetkin was the mandatory, he tested positive for meldonium and claimed he took it when It was still legal, so his mandatory status was put on hold until the situation was clear but he kept his #1 ranking in the meantime.

    It’s clear that you don’t follow boxing unless It’s related to Whyte, this is your chance to educate yourself. Go look up the rest.
     
  12. GALVATRON

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    So maybe the WBC fighters should take UKAD as well so UKAD could suspend anyone over here under VADA and interfere in rankings and bouts they aren’t involved in that is what VADA is doing .

    The fact the fight was in U.K and passed VADA doesn’t give any reason Vada should involve itself ,why was Stiverne allowed to fight and he didn’t even pass VADAs test going into one of his ?

    Let’s say, if Stiverne passed UKAD but not VADA do you think they should suspend his standings and involve themselves if he’s fighting in the U.K ? Lol

    Ortiz a two time striker didn’t he get a title shot twice ? They had no problem postponing him though and getting him the Wilder fight months later , Ha


    I already explained the UKAD rules ,you just don’t like to listen so you say it don’t make sense when it’s couldn’t be more clearer , either that or your really not all there ? o_O
     
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    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    They postponed it for a few weeks.

    In short despite a second passed test of VADA ,the WBC ordered Povetkin to fight Stiverne .....Wilder basically said no to Povetkin...yea they postponed it, ? lol
     
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    And other guys like that African guy Olusegon, pay sanctioning fees, then never get a shot at the title that they earned until the WBC sees fit. That guy really should have sued them for violating their own rules
     
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  15. theanatolian

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    Stiverne got a shot because he made the contamination excuse, Povetkin believed him, wanted to go through with the fight so they did. (They tried, at least.)

    Ortiz got the title shot because when he tested positive, instead of going quiet for 6 months like Whyte, he made the prescribed medication excuse, the results showed that It might have validity.

    And you never explained any UKAD rules, you made some rules up out of thin air to fit your narrative.