Haymon and PBC in trouble?

Robney · Dec 5, 2019

Dubblechin said: ↑

The ratings Saturday were upwards of 2 million households.
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Robney said: ↑

And that that's actually one of their bigger numbers shows how serious the situation actually is.
How in Zeus' name is that in any way a good viewing number when you have these expenses? You actually believe the different advertisers pay millions to have their commercials shown for a "upwards of 2 million households" audience, when they can advertise for much less on much better viewed channels?

And take look at those advertisers. A couple of sketchy pharmaceutical companies that sell snake oil kinda "performance" medication (maybe it's actual rebranded viagra) and about as sketchy insurance companies with their ads.
I'm not an American, but I'm pretty sure they're not the biggest companies out there, wich means they can't spend a whole lot of their budget on advertising either.

2 million viewers isn't a big number for a world title fight on free tv. Maybe in a small country it is, but not when you actually reach only about 1.5% of your countries population. And pretty sure with those numbers they don't value every one of those families they actually reach to be worth a couple of dollars future profit
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Lady Girl said: ↑

why are folks complaining? its free and on tv
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Robney said: ↑

I get that this is great for Americans in general, but the main concern is that this way of doing it might eventually ruin it for many years to come.
Don't just look at today, look at the big picture.

This method is one of losing millions upon millions with the hope of cornering the market and making profit in the long run. Well, it sure looks like it isn't working up till now, and the problems with working with other promoters and networks doesn't really help things either.

What if this fails, wich it looks it's gonna? You think there will be another taking up that glove so to speak?
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Now we're at the inevitable point that was looming... They didn't disappear, but went back to the ancient model of PPV, eventually making things worse rather as better with almost every good fight behind a PPV paywall. 180 degrees removed from their original model, because that wasn't sustainable like anyone with half a brain saw coming.
Brilliant! A different doomsday scenario that I saw coming, as I predicted it to go under keeping their original model alive until the very end, basically making it too toxic for anyone to try anything simular again in the near future. But a minor doomsday scenario non the less, making watching our favorite sport even more expensive as it already was for Americans beforehand.

Badbot · Dec 5, 2019

Robney said: ↑

Now we're at the inevitable point that was looming... They didn't disappear, but went back to the ancient model of PPV, eventually making things worse rather as better with almost every good fight behind a PPV paywall. 180 degrees removed from their original model, because that wasn't sustainable like anyone with half a brain saw coming.
Brilliant! A different doomsday scenario that I saw coming, as I predicted it to go under keeping their original model alive until the very end, basically making it too toxic for anyone to try anything simular again in the near future. But a minor doomsday scenario non the less, making watching our favorite sport even more expensive as it already was for Americans beforehand.
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PBC went back to PPV.
SHO is in the toilet.
HBO is out.
ESPN is going ESPN+
DAZN is DAZN

Not much free, high quality boxing left.

Trafford · Dec 5, 2019

Badbot said: ↑

PBC went back to PPV.
SHO is in the toilet.
HBO is out.
ESPN is going ESPN+
DAZN is DAZN

Not much free, high quality boxing left.
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Theres not but I would rather pay for DAZN and ESPN+ yearly than two PPV's with the quality of Wilder vs Ortiz. The difference in cards is crazy that PBC put on...

Wilder vs Ortiz
Figueroa vs Ceja
Santa Cruz vs Flores
$75

AJ vs Ruiz
Povetkin vs Hunter
Whyte vs Wach
Hrgovic vs Molina
$19.99 or $100 for the whole year

To me only one offers anywhere near value for money.

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