Dillian Whyte tests positive for banned substance

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Is Dillian is innocent?

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  1. boxberry92

    boxberry92 Active Member Full Member

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    Aydamn, do you believe Jeffery Epstein committed suicide?
     
  2. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    With all due respect, every court case is different, and im focusing on this particular one. No court case is alike, so many unique aspects.
     
  3. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Whats the lawyers price got to do with it???

    Whyte has his lawyers. UKAD can hire whoever they want??? Last time I checked solicitor prices are guided by the government depending on your constituent borough. Has eff all to do with this case.

    The only common cost is the cost of going to court and paying the barrister fees, which each will have to agree on. And you can finance that however you wish. You'd like to think UKAD as broke AF because it suits your narrative.... I doubt they are begging on the street with a cup broke. They clearly make a buck or two in the industry.

    Like I said, if their case is strong they will win - its empirical evidence that they have on their side, not some rationalised argument they have to come up with of "Why they think they are right and the other side is wrong"

    But because their evidence is not strong enough to suggest doping... Whyte aint guilty, simple ass.

    VADA been testing Whyte for ages, he has plenty of proof on his side to suggest he is clean. I said this 6 months ago
     
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    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    By the way. Whyte didnt even hire an expensive lawyer, he went with an Associate, not even a senior partner. So their fees will be substantially less than you think.

    A junior basically.

    If UKAD cant even take on asn Associate then LOL, just LOL.

    How far do we need to reach to paint Whyte as guilty?
     
  5. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    I didn't say they were broke, I said losing in court could end with them going bankrupt. Better, experienced lawyers cost more. Morgan Law specialise in anti-doping cases. That's how Fury got his BS excuse. Do you believe the wild boar thing, genuinely? Do you really think that's what it was?

    If you want to believe that their privately held reason for him testing positive for steroids is legit, that's on you and you're free to do so with perfect utility. I do not buy into it at all and I think it's a case of UKAD getting together and saying "this is more hassle than it's worth, just let him off".
     
  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    That's fair enough, you can believe what you want, but you need to be educated on reality in that the costs of an Associate lawyer is hardly going to cause UKAD to go bankrupt... lets be real.... Whyte didnt go with an expensive lawyer. I just looked up his profile based on your link you provided.

    No hard feelings, I know what I believe. And im sure other athletes dope.
     
  7. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are only a handful of specialist sports law firms in the uk, can count them on one hand. So not that surprising.

    A few of the bigger firms are starting to cover sports but it isn’t really law in its own right, it’s an industry to which the principles of other areas of law apply. So at a lot of larger firms you’ll do commercial law with a bit of sports law. They had lawyers from other firms working on the case too.
     
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    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    See my post on the previous page. That’s why they don’t take these cases to court. And UKAD would have access to good barristers...it’s the potential liability if they lose that’s the problem.
     
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    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Now you’re talking shite :lol: he wouldn’t have had an associate representing him. He’d have had a team of lawyers. And that wasn’t the only firm working on the case.

    Lawyers are expensive. But that isn’t why UKAD couldn’t pursue the case. It’d be the potential
    Liability, which would be millions...
     
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    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    lmao team of lawyers, what is this hollywood? LOL

    His lawyer might share resources with the firm from time to time, but fact is, based on what ive read... Whyte hired an associate... not a big shot by any means.

    We all need to calm down, reality is much different than our fantasies.
     
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    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You’re taking **** about something you know nothing about buddy. Trust me, he had a team.
     
  12. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This had nothing to do with the threat of UKAD going bankrupt.

    Does anyone really honestly believe if UKAD had a slam dunk they wouldn't have suspended Whyte?

    How did he pass his Vada tests if he was juicing?
     
  13. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    I saw, it was informative, thank you
     
  14. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    looool team of lawyers, you been watching too much Netflix.

    Whyte doesnt roll up in a limousine with a team of black suits and ties and briefcases escorting him into tall buildings.

    You crack me up man

    The reality, is just one man, with occasional assistance from his colleagues. If Whyte had money for a team he wouldnt have an Associate leading the case.... as usual Logic thrown by hercules out of the window
     
  15. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    The Fury case scared the life out of them
    Why do you think this is different?