While Wilder's resume is extremely padded with all manner of club fighters, chefs, cabbies etc. Stiverne I, and Ortiz I and II are legit top ten wins. Both opponents were top 10 at the time those fights happened.
Really they’re not! Ortiz has never beaten anyone, is way past his best and even if being kind to him he’s over 40 years old with a heart problem. Stiverne was never any good, his last five opponents before facing Wilder were: Chris Arreola Willie Herring Ray Austin Kertson Manswell Ramon Hayes Not exactly The most fearsome list is it? Stiverne was a paper Champion
What? Pointing out that it's odd that you think someone has to be in hysterics to call someone a name? No, they don't, sometimes people are just mean spirited and have a nasty disposition. You're trying to paint an inaccurate picture, and I'm pointing that out.
I've been calmly minding my own business with my head buried in one of my threads ranking the films of my favorite directors films over in The Lounge for the last two hours. The only time I'm poking my head out of it is when one of you assclowns quote me, so tell me, am I hurt, or are all of you just acting like raging homosexuals still floating around on your clouds of ecstasy? I said on the RBR, good for AJ he made the adjustment and won fair and square, and yeah, put forth a dull performance that most casual won't care to see. It means nothing to me, if anything I'm happy, because now maybe Usyk will get a crack at him. I don't spend much time thinking about my least favorite divisions. So stop pestering me.
Stiverne was one of the 10 best heavies when Wilder first fought him. Ortiz hasn't beaten anyone, but the eyeball test shows me, he is better than guys like Chisora, Pulev, Hrgvic etc.
to be fair , Wilder knows.He and his team set out to do this from the beginning, its a sham operation, similar to the Klitschkos charade.
Evander does NOT have 10 losses because he fought the best which he of course did, but because he fought way too long