Is Usyk ready for Joshua at HW yet?

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  1. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    These guys will be too big for usyk. Can see chisora giving him a fight tbh. Theres a big difference between cruiserweight and heavyweight.

    Usyk gets you working hard making you throw punches to keep him off....then drowns you as the fight goes on as far as i can see. Against the big guys he wont be able to take risks to get them working....he,ll need to concentrate on not getting tagged from longer reached more powerful fighters. He,ll still be competetive cause hes class...but he wont beat wilder, fury or joshua. No fault of his own....but these guys are just too big for him to be as effective as he was at cruiserweight.
     
  2. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Assuming the 180 day period is real, I'd rather see Usyk in there within 3 months with a good but not spectacular HW.
    A Brazeale level guy. Then take the Joshua fight 3 months later.

    I suppose it's safer and smarter just to wait 6 months for the big paycheck but he could use the work, IMO.
     
  3. millslane

    millslane New Member Full Member

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    No How did he nominated before other guys like Ortiz?
     
  4. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ruiz far more powerful and durable than Usyk is.

    He needs another fight at HW at least. I’d like to see him fight Whyte and I don’t see him coming through that personally (not last weeks version of Whyte, one with a full camp)
     
  5. Papa_Bear

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    I think Usyk is likely ready right now and I'd slightly favour him. However, personally I'd prefer for him to first do a little more to solidify his HW credentials, and thus give this match-up the profile it deserves (it could actually be pretty huge 12-18 months down the line, whereas it'd be viewed as a standard level AJ fight were it to take place next).

    The most ideal route for Usyk actually would be if Joshua relinquishes - then it'd be Chisora in March, Parker (next highest ranked) for the mando in late summer, and then maybe a defence or straight into Joshua if he's available. Maybe I'm thinking too much like a promoter, but that's what I'd be angling for if I were Hearn.
     
  6. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Really, really hard to tell. His fight with Chisora will elucidate substantially.
     
  7. GeorgeDeservesAMedal

    GeorgeDeservesAMedal Member banned Full Member

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    Far more powerful MAYBE. Meh not by much when Usyk sits on his shots. But Ruiz more durable??? Where is your proof to that statement??? What examples do you have???
     
  8. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is 6 foot 3 and over 200 pounds, how tall are you? Probably 5 foot 6
     
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  9. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You dont need to "build up" a 200lb CW (210 on fight night) to HW, most of the top10 HW ATG fought around that weight at some point.

    Usyk will learn no new tricks, won't put up much muscle mass (can be achieved in 2 months anyway) and not gonna improve neither on power (completely okay) or punch resistance (solid, tho sure AJ & Wilder could knock him out).

    He's as ready as he'll ever be, and that's pretty ready, forget the silly he needs this many fights that many months bullcrap. He no 21, he ready.
     
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  10. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Wtf?
     
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  11. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I personally wanna see Usyk in with some SHWs before he takes on Wilder, Joshua, Fury. I know skill wise where he is and believe potentially he could beat everyone, I still have concerns about how he contends with the length (no homo) of some of the SHWs.
     
  12. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've seen few fighters with the chin of Ruiz at HW. He ate some massive bombs and has a neck like a Gorilla.

    Perhaps Usyk has a chin to match but I think it's unlikely.
     
  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Usyk has an active high guard it`s very hard to predict wherre his head will be because he`s always moving his feet in and out.
     
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  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Usyk has a higher fight IQ than anyone AJ has fought, plus he`s a southpaw.
     
  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Usyk is far quuicker and slicker than Whyte, his stance was almost straight legged on the AJ undercard, he looked really basic.